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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Glenn;<br>
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      What's your opinion on Petzl's professional line of full body
      harnesses?  I noticed too that their cool strapped helmets are
      ANSI  approved.  I never thought regular strapless construction
      hard hats made sense on a roof either. (always falling off and
      causing a hazard to workers below.....)<br>
      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760</pre>
      On 1/17/2015 2:05 PM, Glenn Burt wrote:<br>
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          OSHA personal safety harnesses are designed to keep someone
          upright and without pressure on the diaphragm in the event of
          loss of consciousness.<br>
          Having done substantial rock and ice climbing with state of
          the art climbing gear, I can tell you that it is not designed
          for that at all.<br>
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          Sincerely,<br>
          Glenn Burt<br>
          Sent from my 'smart' phone so please excuse grammar and typos.</div>
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        <hr><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:
          11pt; font-weight: bold;">From: </span><span
          style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:william@millersolar.com">William
            Miller</a></span><br>
        <span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;
          font-weight: bold;">Sent: </span><span style="font-family:
          Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">‎1/‎17/‎2015 14:20</span><br>
        <span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;
          font-weight: bold;">To: </span><span style="font-family:
          Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a
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            href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</a></span><br>
        <span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;
          font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family:
          Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Re: [RE-wrenches] Fall
          Protection Equipment</span><br>
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      <div>Friends:</div>
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      <div>Industrial fall protection with rear attachment offers no
        functionality in keeping a worker in place on a steep steel
        roof. We install planks in these situations but would also like
        to be able to cinch up a line connected to the workers waist or
        chest in the front to provide extra stability. Rear attached
        harnesses do not provide that. </div>
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      <div>William <br>
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        On Jan 17, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Ray Walters <<a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ray@solarray.com">ray@solarray.com</a>>
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I prefer climbing gear as its
            much lighter weight and doesn't drag you around.  I actually
            think in some cases that traditional fall protection gear
            can be more of a tripping hazard than the safety it
            provides.   However, I was previously under the impression
            that if OSHA (or in the islands: HIOSH) came around, we had
            to ditch the climbing gear and get into the 3 times as heavy
            regular harnesses.<br>
            I just looked at the OSHA website though, and it doesn't
            seem to specify certification, just that the equipment meet
            the fall criteria as Dan mentioned.<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.osha.gov/Region7/fallprotection/fall_protection_info.html">https://www.osha.gov/Region7/fallprotection/fall_protection_info.html</a><br>
            This doesn't mention test procedures or certification of
            equipment.  Here's more from the actual OSHA 1926 book:<br>
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            <span class="blackTen"><strong><font class="standard">1926.502(e)(3)</font></strong>
              <blockquote>Connectors shall be drop forged, pressed or
                formed steel, or made of equivalent materials.</blockquote>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" name="1926.502(e)(4)"></a> <strong><font
                  class="standard">1926.502(e)(4)</font></strong>
              <blockquote>Connectors shall have a corrosion-resistant
                finish, and all surfaces and edges shall be smooth to
                prevent damage to interfacing parts of this system.</blockquote>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" name="1926.502(e)(5)"></a> <strong><font
                  class="standard">1926.502(e)(5)</font></strong>
              <blockquote>Connecting assemblies shall have a minimum
                tensile strength of 5,000 pounds (22.2 kN)</blockquote>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" name="1926.502(e)(6)"></a> <strong><font
                  class="standard">1926.502(e)(6)</font></strong>
              <blockquote>Dee-rings and snaphooks shall be proof-tested
                to a minimum tensile load of 3,600 pounds (16 kN)
                without cracking, breaking, or taking permanent
                deformation.<br>
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            </span>"Equivalent materials" ?  Seems that an aluminum
            caribiner that meets the other criteria would be equivalent.<br>
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            Here, Petzl also makes a full line of worker safety
            equipment: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.petzl.com/en/Professional/Verticality?l=US#.VLqw4nuLXfc">http://www.petzl.com/en/Professional/Verticality?l=US#.VLqw4nuLXfc</a><br>
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            This is really interesting, and I would like to have a more
            definitive answer from OSHA.  It would be great if we could
            use lighter weight climbing gear; just compare a caribiner
            to the heavy steel monsters you get at Grainger's.  As long
            as it is strong enough:<br>
            Lighter weight = less fatigue= safer,  IMHO.  <br>
            As with so many discussions on this list, it will ultimately
            depend on your local authorities.<br>
            <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760</pre>
            On 1/16/2015 11:20 PM, Benn Kilburn wrote:<br>
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            <pre wrap="">James,
This looks like a pretty nice lanyard w/ shock-absorber, rope-grab and rope. 

What type/style harness did he bring along?

Re: OSHA approved...great question. Prior to looking into it further I'd suspect it falls in a "grey area". 

Benn Kilburn
SkyFire Energy Inc. 
780-906-7807


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Aloha my Wrench Brothers!
We have a recent defector from a very large National Solar company here that</pre>
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