<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I find it really curious. </div><div>I've been dealing with batteries for almost 20 yrs. I've seen so many dead, flat batteries, systems etc I can't count them all. </div><div>But I've yet to find a reversed one. </div><div>I understand the process. </div><div><br></div><div>I'm trying to understand how he could get multiple reversed batteries at one go?</div><div><br></div><div>Jay </div><div>Peltz power </div><div><br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:47 AM, <a href="mailto:Jarmo.Venalainen@schneider-electric.com">Jarmo.Venalainen@schneider-electric.com</a> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Hi:</font>
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<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">This cell reversal ability of lead acid
batteries gives good perspective on just how much you can mistreat them
and beat them up and still have an expectation of "recovery".</font>
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<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Lithium cells on the other hand without
a full range of protections would have long since filled the home with
all kinds of interesting high temperature thermal events, gaseous compounds
and chemicals, and there is no way you could get that magic smoke back
into them.</font>
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</td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum System - Discharged
Battery Bank</font>
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<br><font size="3">Update on my investigation:</font>
<br><font size="3">I visited the customer's house yesterday to set up a pulse
charger. Much to my surprise the three batteries that originally registered
negative voltage are now reading positive. Does this make sense - are batteries
able to shift between negative and positive voltages at such a low charge
level?</font>
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<br><font size="3">I do not see any evidence of distorted cases.</font>
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<br><font size="3">On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 7:58 AM, <</font><a href="mailto:jay@asis.com"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>jay@asis.com</u></font></a><font size="3">>
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I second tump.<br>
Most likely a bad /cell battery took out the system.<br>
As these are VRLA batteries, I'm curious do,the cases look damaged such
as expanded or sunk in?<br>
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