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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It also incorporates some pretty nauseating marketing.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank you William, I hoped I wasn’t the only one who thought that!</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>With Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Daniel Young, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional<sup>TM</sup>: Cert #031508-90<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>NABCEP Certified Solar Heating Installer<sup>TM</sup>: Cert #SH031409-13<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Lead Systems Designer for:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img width=148 height=90 id="Picture_x0020_11" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D00E51.9331F910" alt="Dovetail 2013 cmyk 300dpi.jpg"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00B050'><a href="http://www.dovetailsolar.com"><span style='color:#00B050'>www.dovetailsolar.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ph: 740-274-0139</span><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00B050'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We’ve completed nearly 400 renewable energy projects! 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Unauthorized interception of this email is a violation of criminal laws and laws covering electronic communications privacy matters. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Miller<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 02, 2014 4:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'RE-wrenches'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] 120% rule<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Friends:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This new breaker looks like it incorporates some good ideas.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It also incorporates some pretty nauseating marketing. The web site is all fluff and little substance. For example, it is not clear what brand of panel this will fit in, listing status, etc. I am also disgusted at the exaggeration on the applicability of the product. All of this makes me hesitate to use this product.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>William<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><img border=0 width=64 height=28 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image002.jpg@01D00E51.9331F910" alt="Gradient Cap_mini"><br>Lic 773985<br><a href="http://www.millersolar.com/">millersolar.com</a><br>805-438-5600<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> RE-wrenches [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:Jarmo.Venalainen@schneider-electric.com">Jarmo.Venalainen@schneider-electric.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:14 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] 120% rule<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hi:</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I'm also not associated with the manufacturer and am not interested in promoting the, but do get lots of questions about these kinds of things and want to make sure I really understand what it is they are offering</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From what I can tell it's a special dual breaker which replaces the main panel breaker and provides contacts for the PV generated AC in such a way that panel busbar ratings are not a factor.</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Does anyone know if that's true?</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Here's a link to a wiring layout that the manufacturer has,</span> <br><br><a href="http://www.qfe002.com/alternative-energy-solutions/"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>http://www.qfe002.com/alternative-energy-solutions/</span></a> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>JARMO<br></span><span style='color:green'>_____________________________________________________________________________________</span> <br><b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>Jarmo Venalainen</span></b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> | <b><span style='color:green'> Schneider Electric </span> | Solar Business</b> | <b>CANADA</b> | <b>Training & Development Specialist - Senior</b> <b><br>Phone:</b> +604-422-2528 | <b>Fax:</b> +604-420-1591 | <b>Mobile:</b> +604-505-0291 <b><br>Email:</b> </span><a href="mailto:jarmo.venalainen@schneider-electric.com"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>jarmo.venalainen@schneider-electric.com</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> | <b>Site:</b></span><a href="http://www.sesolar.com/" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> www.SEsolar.com</span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> | <b>Address:</b> 3700 Gilmore Way, Burnaby, BC V5G4M1 <br><u><span style='color:blue'><br></span></u></span><a href="http://%20www.sesolar.com/"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=468 height=131 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image003.jpg@01D00E51.9331F910"></span></a><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>*** Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail</span> <br><br><o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>From:</span> <o:p></o:p></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Jerry Shafer <<a href="mailto:jerrysgarage01@gmail.com">jerrysgarage01@gmail.com</a>></span> <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>To:</span> <o:p></o:p></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>>, </span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Date:</span> <o:p></o:p></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>12/02/2014 09:19 AM</span> <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Subject:</span> <o:p></o:p></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>[RE-wrenches] 120% rule</span> <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Sent by:</span> <o:p></o:p></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"RE-wrenches" <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><br>I have seen a lot of talk about the meter main and solar breakers and what the 120% rule is intended for. I have seen a product at SPI this year and as I am not pushing this product or indorsing it, it may be of value to some of you that are dealing with the issue of system size vs meter main check out B3 bypass its a breaker with internal bypass built in and does not connect in to the buss. <br>Jerry <br>NABCEP <br><br>______________________________________________________________________<br>This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service.<br>______________________________________________________________________<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>_______________________________________________</span></tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br><tt>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance</tt><br><br><tt>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a></tt><br><br><tt>Change listserver email address & settings:</tt><br></span><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org"><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</span></tt></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br><br><tt>List-Archive: </tt></span><a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html"><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</span></tt></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br><br><tt>List rules & etiquette:</tt><br></span><a href="www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm"><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</span></tt></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br><br><tt>Check out or update participant bios:</tt><br></span><a href="www.members.re-wrenches.org"><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>www.members.re-wrenches.org</span></tt></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 2012.0.2249 / Virus Database: 4189/8166 - Release Date: 12/02/14<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>