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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoPlainText>Gary,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Just wanted to take the time to say thanks for the follow-up. I'm hoping other manufacturers will follow suit to let us know how issues are resolved. Sometimes us off-grid installers feel awfully lonely out here:).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> On a separate issue, please offer a paper manual option when it comes to your Remote/routers. This is necessary so that we can record the settings and not have to bring a laptop in to the remote locations were we do our work. I understand that you're trying to go green and that you are constantly refining your products, thus this requires a reprint and that is expensive. The DVD is fine for a client that may never look at it but as installers we need the hard copies. I'd be happy to pay an additional charge for these as we don't need it for every system. Thanks for listening.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Christopher<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>PS still waiting on your version of a 48V grid-tie/battery backup inverter (not AC-Coupling)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Chris Schaefer’s<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><img width=353 height=72 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image009.png@01CFF5D5.E2469770" alt=SolarWindFX></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Tel/Fax 585-229-2083 or Cell 585-748-1870 <o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> 5115 South Hill Road ~ Canandaigua New York 14424<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal style='page-break-after:avoid'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>www.solarandwindfx.com ~ E-mail: <a href="mailto:chris@solarandwindfx.com">chris@solarandwindfx.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><!--[if gte vml 1]><v:shapetype id="_x0000_t75" coordsize="21600,21600" o:spt="75" o:preferrelative="t" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" filled="f" stroked="f">
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</v:shape><![endif]--><![if !vml]><span style='mso-ignore:vglayout'><table cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 align=left><tr><td width=63 height=4></td><td width=60></td><td width=12></td><td width=70></td><td width=12></td><td width=88></td></tr><tr><td height=1></td><td rowspan=3 align=left valign=top><img width=60 height=81 src="cid:image007.jpg@01CFF5D6.93997D30" v:shapes="Picture_x0020_4"></td><td></td><td rowspan=2 align=left valign=top><img width=70 height=76 src="cid:image008.jpg@01CFF5D6.93997D30" v:shapes="Picture_x0020_2"></td></tr><tr><td height=75></td><td></td><td></td><td rowspan=3 align=left valign=top><img width=88 height=81 src="cid:image010.jpg@01CFF5D6.93997D30" v:shapes="Picture_x0020_3"></td></tr><tr><td height=5></td></tr><tr><td height=1></td></tr></table></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><br style='mso-ignore:vglayout' clear=ALL><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Thomas Jefferson, the author of our great Constitution, once said, "democracy" will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<br>From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Baxter, Gary<br>Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 18:44<br>To: RE-wrenches<br>Cc: Santos-Buch, Alan; Boatwright, Anthony<br>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] magnum question<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Follow up with Jay,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>We thought it might help others to post what we found with Jay's system. This was a Magnum MS4024PAE model that is 120/240 split phase input and output. We describe this unit as 2-2k units in series inside one unit with a two winding transformer basically an autoformer. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>The issue Jay was having was a "Overtemp" fault when charging from generator after an hour or so. The first tech suggested turning down the charge rate to 70% which solved the issue but didn't answer the question of why the unit was in "Overtemp". The first suspicion was there was 120v into the inverter which will cause the transformer to run on half the windings and overheat at full charger output. It is perfectly acceptable to input 120v to the MS-PAE (either leg) and it will charge and the output will be 240v but the charge rate should be reduced. The voltage measurement to the input terminals was 240v so that issue was not suspected anymore. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>What Jay found was one pole of the 240v breaker from the generator was bad. What made it hard to troubleshoot and the reason for the post is that the MS-PAE will accept 120 or 240 input but always convert to 240 output. When measuring the input to a MS-PAE you should remove the wires from the terminal block and take the readings on the wires. The sense transformer on the inverter input will make the input look like 240v but no current on one leg will overheat the transformer. With the wires removed the voltage measurement will show there is no 240v available.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Gary<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Gary Baxter<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Product Manager<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Magnum | Dimensions<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>2211 West Casino Rd.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Everett, WA. 98204<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Office 425.353.8833 | Mobile 425.501.0289 | Fax. 425.353.8390<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Please Note My New Email Address:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="mailto:gbaxter@sensata.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>gbaxter@sensata.com</span></a> | <a href="http://www.magnumenergy.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>www.magnumenergy.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>A Sensata Technologies Business Unit<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: Baxter, Gary <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 9:50 PM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: RE-wrenches<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] magnum question<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Jay,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sorry you didn't get help. Let me know what you need and I will get you an answer.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Gary Baxter<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Product Manager<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Magnum/Dimensions <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> On Oct 23, 2014, at 9:19 PM, jay peltz <<a href="mailto:jay@asis.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>jay@asis.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> HI All,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Does anyone have a person at Magnum in engineering or higher up than tech support.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> I've got a problem with an inverter that tech support won't or can't help with.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> jay<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> peltz power<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Change listserver email address & settings:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> List rules & etiquette:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Check out or update participant bios:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>www.members.re-wrenches.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Change listserver email address & settings:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>List rules & etiquette:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Check out or update participant bios:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>www.members.re-wrenches.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>