<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Friends:</div><div><br></div><div>If only an SMA would work here. But DC volts too low. We are using Solectria PVI5200TLS. </div><div><br></div><div>We do not use PV wire. We transition to THWN-2 in conduit immediately. </div><div><br></div><div>William</div><div><br>Miller Solar</div><div><br>On Oct 6, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Chris Mason <<a href="mailto:cometenergysystems@gmail.com">cometenergysystems@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">I presumed SMA TL series. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Jerry Shafer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jerrysgarage01@gmail.com" target="_blank">jerrysgarage01@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">As i read the thread you say TL which TL SMA, AE ect. They have defferent dc input designs</p><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 6, 2014 12:21 PM, "jay peltz" <<a href="mailto:jay@asis.com" target="_blank">jay@asis.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">I do believe the outback and midnite combiners have a lock hole to prevent exactly your concern.<div>unauthorized access.</div><div><br></div><div>jay</div><div><br></div><div>peltz power<br><div><div>On Oct 6, 2014, at 11:40 AM, William Miller wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Wrenches:<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">We are getting up to speed on using transformer-less inverters.  I have advocated long for the additional safety offered by these inverters but I am realizing the trade-offs with the new technology:  The implementation gets more complicated with the requirement for PV wire, OCPD and disconnecting means for plus and minus and plus providing  Arc Flash rated equipment.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I am currently designing a system that will locate the PV about 400 feet from the residence.  The system will utilize 2 Solectria 5200 watt inverters at the residence.  I would like to provide disconnecting means for the 4 strings at the array, in case of any needed service or excavating.  Preferably I’d like the disconnecting means to be deployable by a lay person (i.e. the gardener).<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Finding an 8 pole, arc flash, 600 VDC rated disconnect is not easy.  I could install an Outback 8 circuit combiner with 8 touch-safe fuse holders.  The new combiners have had dead-fronts for a while now.  The gardener needs only to have a Philips screw driver to open this cover.  Any better ideas out there?<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">William<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><span><imag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