<div dir="ltr">Mark,<div>This question depends on what where you draw your system boundary.  If you are analyzing a module in its entirety, the module that is converting irradiance energy into electrical current will be cooler overall (less thermal energy) because less of that irradiance energy is turning into thermal energy.  However, if you look at individual cells, the module that is conducting current can transfer some of that electrical energy into thermal energy in bad cells, which will make localized heating.</div><div>Effectively, the modules producing useful work outside of your boundary won't be be converting all of that radiation energy into thermal energy inside of your boundary.</div><div><br></div><div>Hence, open circuit module warmer than conducting module.</div><div><br></div><div>This assumes that the only energy entering the system is from radiation, and that energy can leave the system as electrical energy.</div><div><br></div><div>I like the question</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:10 PM, William Miller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com" target="_blank">william@millersolar.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Colleagues:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks for the scintillating and relevant discussion.  This brings up a question on my radar:  Will unloaded modules fail sooner than loaded modules?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks again. Great Group!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">William<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><img width="64" height="28" src="cid:image003.jpg@01CFCD3B.A2943460" alt="Gradient Cap_mini"><br>Lic 773985<br><a href="http://www.millersolar.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">millersolar.com</span></a><br><a href="tel:805-438-5600" value="+18054385600" target="_blank">805-438-5600</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill Hoffer<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Cooler Modules<u></u><u></u></span></p><span class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Mark<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Loaded modules will have hotter cells. I know this from searching for bad cells with a thermal camera.  At open circuit I could not see a difference, but short circuit or loaded I could see 20 - 30 C increase in mismatched cells .<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Bill   <u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></span></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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