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      In addition, an SPD is supposed to keep any input lines to the
      equipment from breaking over<br>
      the insulation.  For the Classic, the hipot voltage is over 2000
      volts to chassis (gnd).<br>
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      If the SPDs are grounded and connected well they should be able to
      do their job unless maybe<br>
      it is a direct strike and then it is not so easy to visualize.<br>
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      Anyway, this is why SPD voltages are normally higher than the
      usual maximum system<br>
      operating voltages.  But a good ground is essential.  Even a
      seemingly far off lightning<br>
      strike can cause high electric fields near an antenna or PV array
      or tower system but.<br>
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      boB<br>
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      On 7/4/2014 11:20 AM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:boB@midnitesolar.com">boB@midnitesolar.com</a> wrote:<br>
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        The SPD will (or, should), "clamp" the input voltages, both
        positive and negative to ground at the<br>
        MOV voltage rating during a lightning strike.  The SPD 300
        starts at about 500 volts on each leg<br>
        of the SPD.  The 600 SPD is higher voltage of course.  Since, on
        the PV input side, the MOVs <br>
        appear to be in series, an SPD 300 should clamp the plus and
        minus input to twice 500V or,<br>
        about 100 volts which should not do anything to a charge
        controller operating up to 250<br>
        volts or even higher so I am not sire what happened here.  We'll
        have to try to do an autopsy<br>
        on the controller if possible on this one.<br>
        <br>
        We're still looking into the optimizer interaction issue.  It
        doesn't really make any sense as<br>
        to why they should "fight" though.  We have talked with Tigo on
        this but nothing definitive<br>
        yet as to why.<br>
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        Thanks and happy 4th of July,<br>
        boB<br>
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        On 7/4/2014 7:51 AM, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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          <div>Anyone else having problems with Midnight Classics
            Flaming out (Literally)? We know they don't play nice with
            Tigo Optimizers. Wondering if a Midnight SPD might also look
            like a short to a classic when it clamps. only affected two
            of the four controllers. Two seemed to be un affected, one
            tripped off and reset, Not only did the last one let the
            smoke out, but went Dali in the process. Painted up the wall
            and everything.Suggestions? Thanks db<br>
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            Dan Brown<br>
            Foxfire Energy Corp.<br>
            Renewable Energy Systems<br>
            (802)-483-2564<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.Foxfire-Energy.com">www.Foxfire-Energy.com</a><br>
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              Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] 2014 NEC<br>
              From: Phil Forest <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:pforest@southmountain.com">pforest@southmountain.com</a>><br>
              Date: Tue, May 20, 2014 1:25 pm<br>
              To: RE-wrenches <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              <div>Will,</div>
              <div>No problems with inspectors for us in MA, regarding
                rapid shutdown, since we recently switched to using
                SolarEdge central inverters with optimizer under each
                module, for roof mounted installs. </div>
              <div>So far so good. They seem well made and engineered.
                Tip: you have to enable the arc fault protection when
                commissioning, ships disabled. <br>
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                <div>Phil Forest</div>
                <div>South Mountain Company</div>
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                On May 20, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Will White <<a
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                      anyone else having problems with inspectors and
                      the 2014 NEC?  In Mass we’re having all kinds of
                      issues with inspectors requiring/allowing an array
                      of different things for 690.12 rapid shut down
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                    <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">We’re
                      also having problems with one inspector requiring
                      arc fault breakers on Enphase even though there
                      are no UL listed arc fault breakers that can be
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