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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Very nice Jason!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’ll certainly take a look at that plugin. I should mention the 2hr sketch was including the detailed roof measurements and placement of all the roof obstructions. I’m not as fast as you still, as the simple best case layout would still have taken me the better part of 45min to get it where I would want it</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Daniel Young, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional<sup>TM</sup>: Cert #031508-90<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>NABCEP Certified Solar Heating Installer<sup>TM</sup>: Cert #SH031409-13<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Lead Systems Designer for:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00B050'><a href="http://www.dovetailsolar.com"><span style='color:#00B050'>www.dovetailsolar.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ph: 740-274-0139</span><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00B050'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We’ve completed over 310 renewable energy projects! Check out a few in our photo gallery: </span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.dovetailsolar.com/Our-Work.aspx?path=commercial+-+solar+electric"><span style='color:#00B050'>http://www.dovetailsolar.com/Our-Work.aspx?path=commercial+-+solar+electric</span></a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#003399'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#92D050'>This email message and attachments are intended only for the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you may not disclose, print, copy or disseminate this message and/or the information contained in the message. 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Unauthorized interception of this email is a violation of criminal laws and laws covering electronic communications privacy matters. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jason Szumlanski<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Proposal Sketching Tool/Software<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>That's easy to talk through. We tell the prospect in advance that we make an initial assessment based on aerial imagery to show the maximum possible (trees can be cut usually, and plumbing can be moved). When we arrive, if there are any obstructions, we talk about that with the homeowner. It's really quite simple. No embarrassment.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>The opposite of what you describe is often the case - we assume that there is a serious shading issue, only to arrive and find out that tall trees have been cut since the images were taken. Some conversation at initial lead intake can reduce that possibility.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Fortunately, around here we usually have pretty crisp and recent imagery so at least we know if there will be an obstruction in advance. Like you said, the location and height is hard to pinpoint on a drawing in advance.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>It's incredibly easy to revise the drawings according to what is discovered at the site visit. Usually we will will do an electronic presentation on an iPad, then revise the drawing if necessary before emailing the PDF to the homeowner.</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'></span><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div id="WISESTAMP_SIG_gmail_session"><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1025" src="http://ws-stats.appspot.com/ga/pixel.png?yes__count=true&e=legacy_impression"><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 4:20 AM, William Miller <<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com" target="_blank">william@millersolar.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jason:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Very impressive. Thanks for sharing.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If you do your design from a satellite image, aren’t you afraid you might miss a plumbing vent or other obstruction, or the shade from a tree that you cannot judge the height of accurately? One foot can make the difference of 3 modules on a 3 row install. Is it embarrassing to sell the customer x number of modules and arrive to find out you can only fit <x?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>William</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><img border=0 width=64 height=28 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image003.jpg@01CF8BA5.165C34C0" alt="Gradient Cap_mini"><br>Lic 773985<br><a href="http://www.millersolar.com/" target="_blank">millersolar.com</a><br><a href="tel:805-438-5600" target="_blank">805-438-5600</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jason Szumlanski<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 17, 2014 2:17 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Proposal Sketching Tool/Software<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Rather than sharing individual presentation examples, I did a screen recording of preparing a model in Sketchup Pro and Layout from start to finish. This is me preparing a real presentation package that will be used tomorrow at an in-house presentation by a sales rep. I ignored roof obstructions in the interest of time, but you can see in the video that I completed a viable presentation package in 10 minutes showing the maximum PV possible on a roof. The magic happens at 2:25 when the Instant Roof script does it's work. Here is a link to the video:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><a href="http://youtu.be/vs3ypUOe2_c" target="_blank">http://youtu.be/vs3ypUOe2_c</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>This is not sped up. I did take some minor liberties in the interest of time - I would typically spend about 5 minutes extra making sure dimensions are as accurate as possible. This particular address didn't have the sharpest imagery from Google Earth, but it was passable. I'll be well within 1' on all roof dimensions based on my past experience, and a few measurements from the ground can confirm accuracy level. I used Bing Maps to estimate a roof pitch of 5:12, which is pretty typical of the neighborhood I know this house to be within. Google street view is not available in this gated community. I assumed an 18" eave, which I generally use as a generic dimension unless I know homes in a neighborhood to have different overhangs. This home had a raised entryway and a lower beam height for the garage, so it was not the easiest home to model, but far from the hardest. I took a few minutes to set up my rendering scenes and elevations because I am anticipating this actually being used eventually for construction and permitting docs in Layout, but that's totally optional. I skipped some minor steps in Layout, too, like changing the quantity of modules in the legend. I'll go back and clean things up before sending to the sales rep. I showed off some of the shading analysis capabilities, even though it wasn't necessary for this unshaded roof.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'></span><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>You can see the mouse clicks, but what you don't see is my keyboard presses - I have shortcuts set up for most tools and actions to speed my workflow.</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Preparing models from PDF or DWF plans results in a mode every bit as accurate as AutoCAD. I use essentially the same techniques. That can really blow away a homeowner (and sometimes an architect). </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Hopefully that answers your questions about the viability of Sketchup for doing solar energy presentations!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'></span><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Jason Szumlanski</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Fafco Solar</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1027" src="http://ws-stats.appspot.com/ga/pixel.png?yes__count=true&e=legacy_impression"><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Change listserver email address & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html" target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" target="_blank">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out or update participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3955/7169 - Release Date: 06/13/14<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>