<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">690.9(D) is not applicable to the original discussion because we were talking about an Inverter output circuit, not a PV Source or Output circuit.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">690.34 may apply if you call a SolaDeck with breakers a junction box, but I can see that being a stretch in the mind of many. </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">My and Ray's question about the screws on the SolaDeck cover itself requiring a tool to render it accessible is still an issue if the breakers themselves need to be "readily accessible," but that would also apply to a Midnite MNPV, which also has a cover with a screw.</div>
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On 4/28/2014 5:57 PM, Bill Brooks wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Read
690.9(D) and 690.34. Not sure where this “hysteria—run for
the border” sentiment is coming from.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times-Bold","serif";color:windowtext">690.9(D)
Photovoltaic Source and Output Circuits. </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times-Roman","serif";color:windowtext">Listed
PV<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times-Roman","serif";color:windowtext">overcurrent
devices shall be required to provide overcurrent<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times-Roman","serif";color:windowtext">protection
in PV source and output circuits. The overcurrent<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times-Roman","serif";color:windowtext">devices
shall be accessible but shall not be required to<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times-Roman","serif";color:windowtext">be
readily accessible.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times-Bold","serif";color:windowtext">690.34
Access to Boxes. </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times-Roman","serif";color:windowtext">Junction,
pull, and outlet boxes<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times-Roman","serif";color:windowtext">located
behind modules or panels shall be so installed that<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times-Roman","serif";color:windowtext">the
wiring contained in them can be rendered accessible<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times-Roman","serif";color:windowtext">directly
or by displacement of a module(s) or panel(s) secured<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times-Roman","serif";color:windowtext">by
removable fasteners and connected by a flexible<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times-Roman","serif";color:windowtext">wiring
system.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">This
is not a change. Please help me understand the concern.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Bill
Brooks.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Ray Walters<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 28, 2014 2:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] (no subject)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Interesting so does "require a tool"
include taking a screw off the cover plate of the combiner
box, too?<br>
What a game changer. I'm going to Mexico for my next
project; I'll actually enjoy even more being the sole AHJ on
the project. <br>
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<pre>R.Ray Walters<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>CTO, Solarray, Inc<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>Nabcep Certified PV Installer, <u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>Licensed Master Electrician<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>Solar Design Engineer<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre><a href="tel:303%20505-8760" value="+13035058760" target="_blank">303 505-8760</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 4/28/2014 2:52 PM, Michael Morningstar
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<p class="MsoNormal">Readily accessible is now defined in the
2014 NEC. Installing OCPD’s underneath a module is a major
faux paux, and I can’t imagine any AHJ thinking otherwise.
Having to remove a module in order to reset a breaker, what
a drag.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>"Capable
of being reached quickly for operation, renewal or
inspection without requiring those concerned to use a
tool, to climb over, remove obstacle or other.</span><span>”</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Michael</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 28, 2014, at 10:29 AM,
William Miller <<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com" target="_blank">william@millersolar.com</a>>
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You call it a solar panel, I call
it a glass j-box cover plate. <br>
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William<br>
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Miller Solar<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 28, 2014, at 9:21 AM,
Jason Szumlanski <<a href="mailto:jason@fafcosolar.com" target="_blank">jason@fafcosolar.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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If that is the interpretation,<br>
I don't see how the breakers are "readily
accessible" in a SolaDeck<br>
mounted anywhere, regardless of whether it is
under a module. It<br>
requires removal of four screws (using a tool) to
access the breakers<br>
inside the enclosure. It's all up to the AHJ. It
has not been an issue<br>
locally here. I can see how other jurisdictions
may not<br>
concur.
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