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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:black'>The “suicide cords” are common up here. Most that I have seen are on a breaker, permanently wired and most have a dead piug covering the generator ends of the cord. At least there are no live conductors exposed. Now if I could just get a friend to stop leaving his on the basement floor everytime it floods!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:black'>Bob Ellison<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ray Walters<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 13, 2014 5:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Myths, Schemes and Scams request<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I'm game: let's do it. I was just at Home Depot this weekend talking about male male extension cords......<br><br>Ray<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I also admit to, when in a whimsical mood, asking staff at Home Depot / Ace hardware etc., how to make up a male to male extension cord so my Honda generator can run my house in an emergency. One of these days I'll find a co-conspiritor with a tiny camera and make an educational video of it. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dan Fink,<br>Executive Director;<br>Otherpower<br>Buckville Energy Consulting<br>Buckville Publications LLC<br>NABCEP / IREC accredited Continuing Education Providers<br>970.672.4342<br><br> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Dave Click <<a href="mailto:daveclick@fsec.ucf.edu" target="_blank">daveclick@fsec.ucf.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>If you also have the local electricians selling the kvar units as surefire ways to save 30% on your electric bill, I'd nominate that as myth/scheme/scam, though I hope most of those resellers are doing so only because they're naive. There was also some absurd company a few years ago which was selling a "3000W" module that looked suspiciously like a 200W module yet could produce a steady 3kW even without any load and even while in the shade. They had the clamp-on meter to prove it, so maybe they're still selling off area code exclusivity off for a mere $50,000 initial deposit.<br><br>Screen-shots from this would be fun-- one of the ubiquitous "$50 for this complete guide to unplugging from grid by making your own solar panels"<br><a href="http://www.powerfreedom.com/System/" target="_blank">http://www.powerfreedom.com/System/</a><br><br>The YellowBook ad from a few years ago:<br><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hpHxEhO_DQ" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hpHxEhO_DQ</a><br><br>I don't know where I got this picture-- from one of the "make your own solar panel" things online. Lovely aesthetics!<br><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/bxhl3q6hrr9z5sp/DIY%20PV.png" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/bxhl3q6hrr9z5sp/DIY%20PV.png</a> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 2014/4/12, 16:47, Allan Sindelar wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Fellow Wrenches,<br>Last year I prepared an hour's presentation for our local Solar Fiesta on "Energy Myths, Schemes and Scams". I covered mostly PV and the solar industry, with a few slides about the physics of wind and those cute spinny yard-art things called VAWTs. I also hit on "it takes more energy to make a PV panel than it will ever produce", the limitations of 25-year module warranties, "free energy generators", James McKirdy, lunar modules, and modules with fraudulent listings. This was what I was able to pull together.<br><br>The workshop was popular and I have been asked to give it again in a couple of weeks. I'm looking for any suggestions that you may have for new or additional material to update the presentation. Any ideas are welcome, especially if you can provide links to good stories and slide materials. This is for a general non-technical audience, but I have the freedom to go in any direction I wish. So I'd like to be more than just entertaining, but make points about value over price, using local installers with knowledge and experience, etc. <br><br>Beside my appreciation for the material, I'll offer in return to share an editable version of the presentation for your own use (although it's a 14 meg PowerPoint file at present).<br><br>Thank you in advance for your suggestions of anything that gets your blood boiling, that would be funny if it wasn't giving PV and clean energy a bad name.<br>Allan<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Allan Sindelar</b><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#000099'>Allan@positiveenergysolar.com</span></a></span><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional<br>NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional<br>New Mexico EE98J Journeyman 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