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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Jerry,<br>
      Your request is entirely reasonable, and my answer is no, I can't.
      The request in my original message came from an online contact
      request from someone who was at yesterday's PRC hearing and heard
      Commissioner Lyons' comment. I have no further information, as to
      get it I would most likely have to contact the Commissioner
      myself. I wrote to the List in order to get a "bird's-eye view" of
      whether such an application was even possible. I wouldn't want to
      call up the Commissioner for more info with no idea of whether
      it's even possible. I'd be just another deer in those headlights.<br>
      <br>
      Given all that, given that he's from the plains on northeastern
      NM, I would expect it to be a well.<br>
      Allan<br>
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      On 3/27/2014 9:36 AM, Jerry Shafer wrote:<br>
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        <div>can you give us more details, are you proposing pumping
          from a pond, a well, storage tank what.<br>
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        Jerry  <br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 7:19 AM, Chris
          Mason <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:cometenergysystems@gmail.com" target="_blank">cometenergysystems@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">I have a couple of suggestions. A pump motor
              of that size is likely Class H and requires a 7x starting
              current or Locked Rotor Amperage. During starting the
              power factor can drop to .2 or lower and the inrush can
              run to 20 times the rated run current. Even diesel
              generators have a very difficult time starting singular
              loads of this size. I would not even attempt such a task.
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                That said, the solution is to look at the work to be
                done. If the intent is to pump, let's say, 10000 gallons
                in one hour per day, suggest that a solar powered DC
                pump could accomplish the same in the course of a day.
                DC pumps are viable speed and don't have inrush
                currents.</div>
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                  <div class="h5">On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:07 AM,
                    Allan Sindelar <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                    wrote:<br>
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                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Wrenches,<br>
                        Here's one of the oddest questions I have come
                        across in years:<br>
                        <blockquote> PRC Commisioner Lyons issued a
                          challenge to NM solar companies today. He
                          stated that he cannot get his electric coop to
                          bring three phase into his property to run his
                          irrigation (a 150 hp motor). He said that
                          whenever he mentions this to a solar outfit -
                          running a 150 hp motor on pv - they look back
                          at him like a deer in the headlights. Can you
                          meet his challenge? </blockquote>
                        This application is way above my pay grade, and
                        normally I would not give this question much
                        pause, as few ranchers would be seriously
                        willing to put up the money for the design and
                        research time to work up and price a solution,
                        especially given that as far as I know, none
                        even exists. No rural water pumping PV designer
                        that I know works with motor loads of such
                        scale. Indeed, it makes my head spin to think of
                        it.<br>
                        <br>
                        I checked an older (2003) Franklin motor
                        application guide and found specs for a 150 HP 3
                        phase motor: 128 kilowatts at 380-575 VAC at 60
                        Hz.<br>
                        <br>
                        The only reason I am writing is this: The
                        rancher is one of our state's five Public
                        Regulatory Commissioners. These are the folks
                        who regulate our three private utilities and 20
                        +/- rural co-ops, and he is perhaps the most
                        conservative one of the five. Last fall he
                        initiated an ill-conceived regulation to cut in
                        half our state's RPS and pushed it through to
                        passage on the PRC; about two months later the
                        ruling was rescinded due to a huge public
                        outcry. So if it were even possible to address
                        his particular request, the potential
                        consequences could have far-reaching effects
                        politically.<br>
                        <br>
                        Has anyone attempted or accomplished anything
                        even close to this? Is there existing equipment
                        that could handle such an application? Could
                        such an application be justified economically?
                        Or can anyone offer a reasoned answer why it's
                        not possible?<br>
                        <br>
                        Thank you,<br>
                        Allan<br>
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