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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Jerry,<br>
Your request is entirely reasonable, and my answer is no, I can't.
The request in my original message came from an online contact
request from someone who was at yesterday's PRC hearing and heard
Commissioner Lyons' comment. I have no further information, as to
get it I would most likely have to contact the Commissioner
myself. I wrote to the List in order to get a "bird's-eye view" of
whether such an application was even possible. I wouldn't want to
call up the Commissioner for more info with no idea of whether
it's even possible. I'd be just another deer in those headlights.<br>
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Given all that, given that he's from the plains on northeastern
NM, I would expect it to be a well.<br>
Allan<br>
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On 3/27/2014 9:36 AM, Jerry Shafer wrote:<br>
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<div>can you give us more details, are you proposing pumping
from a pond, a well, storage tank what.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I have a couple of suggestions. A pump motor
of that size is likely Class H and requires a 7x starting
current or Locked Rotor Amperage. During starting the
power factor can drop to .2 or lower and the inrush can
run to 20 times the rated run current. Even diesel
generators have a very difficult time starting singular
loads of this size. I would not even attempt such a task.
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That said, the solution is to look at the work to be
done. If the intent is to pump, let's say, 10000 gallons
in one hour per day, suggest that a solar powered DC
pump could accomplish the same in the course of a day.
DC pumps are viable speed and don't have inrush
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Wrenches,<br>
Here's one of the oddest questions I have come
across in years:<br>
<blockquote> PRC Commisioner Lyons issued a
challenge to NM solar companies today. He
stated that he cannot get his electric coop to
bring three phase into his property to run his
irrigation (a 150 hp motor). He said that
whenever he mentions this to a solar outfit -
running a 150 hp motor on pv - they look back
at him like a deer in the headlights. Can you
meet his challenge? </blockquote>
This application is way above my pay grade, and
normally I would not give this question much
pause, as few ranchers would be seriously
willing to put up the money for the design and
research time to work up and price a solution,
especially given that as far as I know, none
even exists. No rural water pumping PV designer
that I know works with motor loads of such
scale. Indeed, it makes my head spin to think of
it.<br>
<br>
I checked an older (2003) Franklin motor
application guide and found specs for a 150 HP 3
phase motor: 128 kilowatts at 380-575 VAC at 60
Hz.<br>
<br>
The only reason I am writing is this: The
rancher is one of our state's five Public
Regulatory Commissioners. These are the folks
who regulate our three private utilities and 20
+/- rural co-ops, and he is perhaps the most
conservative one of the five. Last fall he
initiated an ill-conceived regulation to cut in
half our state's RPS and pushed it through to
passage on the PRC; about two months later the
ruling was rescinded due to a huge public
outcry. So if it were even possible to address
his particular request, the potential
consequences could have far-reaching effects
politically.<br>
<br>
Has anyone attempted or accomplished anything
even close to this? Is there existing equipment
that could handle such an application? Could
such an application be justified economically?
Or can anyone offer a reasoned answer why it's
not possible?<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
Allan<br>
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