<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I'm pretty sure the free version of Skelion will do the roof layout. You just don't get some of the other nifty features. Oddly enough, the most important features we use are free.</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Bill Hoffer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sunengser@gmail.com" target="_blank">sunengser@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">William <div><br></div><div>I second using Sketchup and Layout for $500 . I have seen the add on Roof Pro Plug in and Skelion ( $199) demo that lays out the array and links to PVwatts for power analysis. Plus Combined with google earth , does great shading analysis I. I think you can do a quick design in an hour and Autocad would be days! Stay away from Autocad unless you really need it for large commercial jobs and like Jason said it is required to interact with other trades! Plus Solar Energy Engineering is starting a web based training for using it for solar projects. It really is pretty cool and a lot more flexible than overpriced and overly complicated Autocad. Autocad light woudl be my first choice, no way you need the full blown version.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Bill</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Jason Szumlanski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jason@fafcosolar.com" target="_blank">jason@fafcosolar.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Unless there is a compelling reason to use AutoCAD, like interoperability with other trades and professions, consider Sketchup Pro and Layout from Trimble. $500.</div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I learned it over a weekend, and with the Instant Roof Pro plugin ($39) I was making convincing and accurate renderings in almost no time. Note: Instant Roof, a necessary plugin for roof modeling, has not been updated for Sketchup 2014, so download 2013 for now. The author is working on it.</div>
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On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 7:09 PM, William Miller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com" target="_blank">william@millersolar.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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