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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#1F497D'>A correction to my earlier reply: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#1F497D'>AutoCad will ‘print’ directly to a pdf file on newer versions using MS Windows7 & 8. Adobe no longer supports that function on earlier versions of Acad. Mine is a full commercial version of 2000i and works flawlessly today. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#1F497D'>In the 80s & 90s text & other instructional books came with all software. Find old copies, often 100s of pages of commands & examples. Acad doesn’t ever change commands, just adds new ones so even a decade old book is accurate. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#1F497D'>Find a local chapter of an AutoCad Users Group to meet others with decades of knowledge.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#1F497D'>Jim Duncan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill Brooks<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 12, 2014 6:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'RE-wrenches'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Autocad<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>William,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Go to <a href="http://www.associatedsoftwaresales.com/home.php">http://www.associatedsoftwaresales.com/home.php</a> . They do a 48-month lease of 2013 AutoCAD LT for $325. If you really need AutoCAD, there is no cheaper route that I know of.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Bill.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:14.0pt'> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a> [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Miller<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 12, 2014 4:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Autocad<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Friends:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>The 3D CAD software I have been using is obsolete. I have decided to upgrade to Autocad. I am temporarily using an educational copy while I learn, but I need to purchase a copy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Before I go out and plunk down $4k, I need to do some research:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Do I have to expect to pay that much?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Where is a good place to purchase?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Are there copies of one generation old programs available?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>I am a self teacher but I use printed texts. What is your favorite Autocad reference?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Thanks everyone!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>William<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><img border=0 width=64 height=28 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CF3E94.21B81DB0" alt="Gradient Cap_mini"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Lic 773985<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>millersolar.com (hyperlink)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>805-438-5600<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><hr size=1 width="99%" noshade style='color:#909090' align=center></span></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td style='padding:0in 11.25pt 0in 6.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><a href="http://www.avast.com/"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1027" src="http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png"></span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3D4D5A'>This email is free from viruses and malware because <a href="http://www.avast.com/">avast! 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