<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span></span></div><div></div><div> <span class="btn btn-contact lozenge small left right" data-action="contact-menu"><a tabindex="-1" title="" role="button" dir="" href="https://us-mg0.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=5kojk045gpsqg#"></a> </span> <div class="thread-info"><div title="This message has an attachment" class="icon file s-tp"></div> <span class="thread-date"><span title="Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:41 AM" class="short">Today at 11:41 <span class="ampm">AM</span></span> </span> </div><div class="thread-body" style="width: auto;"><div class="body undoreset"><div id="yiv2102209187"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span></span></div><div></div><div>Dear colleagues, </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Rooftop real
estate available for solar is of unparalleled and monumental importance. As we head into our 6th great extinction the solar industry needs to fight tooth and nail to gain 100% access to every inch of available roof space. The fire fighting industry needs to adapt to solar, NOT vice versa. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>In Oregon, one person, myself, stopped the 12 person BCD committee from adopting the anti solar 3 foot pathway around solar arrays. The committee would not listen to reason. I went to the governors office saying and showing that if the Cal. Guidelines were adopted as code 100% of the roofs we had installed systems on would be 100%illegal and unviable.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Yada yada yada, we got the Koyaanisqatsi Rule.</div><div> </div><div><font size="2"><div><strong>304.9.1 General Pathway Requirements </strong></div></font><b><font
size="2"><div>Exception </div></font></b><font size="2"><b>1.1. </b></font><font face="Times New Roman,Times New Roman" size="2"><font face="Times New Roman,Times New Roman" size="2">Where the PV array does not exceed 25% as measured in plan view of total roof area of the structure, a minimum 12 inch (305mm) unobstructed pathway, shall be maintained along each side of any horizontal ridge. </font></font></div><div><font face="Times New Roman,Times New Roman" size="2"><font face="Times New Roman,Times New Roman" size="2"></font></font><b><font size="2"></font></b><font size="2"></font></div><div><font size="2"><b>1.2</b></font><font face="Times New Roman,Times New Roman" size="2"><font face="Times New Roman,Times New Roman" size="2">. Where the solar array area exceeds 25% as measured in plan view of total roof area of the structure, a minimum of one 36 inch (914 mm) unobstructed pathway from ridge to eave, over a structurally supported area, must be
provided in addition to a minimum 12 inch (305 mm) unobstructed pathway along each side of any horizontal ridge. </font></font></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I still see this as a failure. I had 40% going into the final meeting and one foot from the peak only on pitches greater than 4:12. But, by that time everyone hated me soooo badly for holding such a hard lined solar centric perspective, and for succeeding in going over their heads, it was all I could do to get them to meet.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Unassisted in this battle I was exhausted and unable to follow the proceedings to the end. And, in the end, a rafter span chart hostile to solar was thrown in and now we are dealing with that.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Here is the link to the Oregon Solar Installation Specialty Code: <a
href="http://www.cbs.state.or.us/bcd/programs/solar/solar_code/100110_OSISC.pdf">http://www.cbs.state.or.us/bcd/programs/solar/solar_code/100110_OSISC.pdf</a><div align="LEFT"></div>
<div> </div><div>The concept and good intentions of a statewide code were good. Unfortunately, the task was left to folk who were not as friendly towards or knowledgeable of solar as one would think would be asked to be part of such a noble cause. </div></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Respectfully Submitted,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><font face="comic sans ms"><div><font face="arial"><var id="yiv1528272707yui-ie-cursor"></var><strong>Andrew Koyaanisqatsi</strong></font></div><div><font face="arial"><strong>President</strong></font></div><div><font face="arial"><strong>Solar Energy Solutions, Inc.</strong></font></div><div><font face="arial"><strong>Since 1987,</strong></font></div><div><font face="arial"><strong>Moving Portland and Beyond </strong></font></div><div><font face="arial"><strong>to an Environmentally Sustainable Future.</strong></font></div><div><font
face="arial"></font></div><div><font face="arial"><strong>503-238-4502<br></strong><a href="http://www.solarenergyoregon.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>www.SolarEnergyOregon.com</strong></a><strong> </strong></font></div><div><strong> </strong></div><div><font face="comic sans ms"><strong>"Better one's House too little one day</strong></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms"><strong>than too big all the Year after."</strong></font></div></font></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"><strong> <br> <br> </strong><div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><strong> </strong><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><strong> </strong><div dir="ltr"><strong> </strong><strong><font face="Arial" size="2"> On Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:45 AM, Mark Frye <markf@berkeleysolar.com> wrote:<br> </font>
</strong></div><strong> </strong><blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid;"><strong> </strong><div class="y_msg_container"><strong>There are so so many well informed people on this list, and I am so lazy.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I wish someone could just lay it all out":<br clear="none"><br clear="none">We got the 2012 ABC thing nearly identical to NPPA1 with the set backs <br clear="none">and labeling<br clear="none">We got the 2014 NEC with the de-energizing the conductors and equipment<br clear="none">We got the IBC which appears to say one thing about fire rating ie. <br clear="none">needs to be the same as roof<br clear="none">And we got the UL thing that seems to be based on the combined rating of <br clear="none">the module and racking system<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Wow, I commend anyone who is willing to go
into a building department <br clear="none">and lay down a set of plans.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Mark<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">On 2/13/2014 10:50 AM, William Korthof wrote:<br clear="none">> Bill,<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Thanks for the attached info. I don't see where the fire rating class of solar modules is addressed though...<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> In the IBC, the specific section (I believe 902.4 or close to that) seems to call for solar modules to carry the same fire rating class as the roofing class required of the building. At least that's the interpretation I initially got from my local building and safety office. They've been sitting on my plans for two weeks so far. When they turn them around, I may have more to talk about.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> /wk<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> William Korthof<br clear="none">>
714.875.3576<br clear="none">> Sustainable Solutions<br clear="none">> #956904<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> On Feb 13, 2014, at 9:34 AM, "Bill Brooks" <</strong><a href="mailto:billbrooks7@yahoo.com" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:billbrooks7@yahoo.com"><strong>billbrooks7@yahoo.com</strong></a><strong>> wrote:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Yes Peter,<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> It is called the 2012 International Fire Code. The California guidelines<br clear="none">> were turned into code in 2012. There is an explanation document I wrote<br clear="none">> available online at:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> </strong><a href="http://solarabcs.org//about/publications/reports/fireguideline/index.html" target="_blank" shape="rect"><strong>http://solarabcs.org//about/publications/reports/fireguideline/index.html</strong></a><br clear="none"><strong>><br clear="none">> For those states
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