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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Panduit also has an enormous variety of cable ties available.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.panduit.com/wcs/Satellite?pagename=PG_Wrapper&friendlyurl=/en/products-and-services/products/cable-ties-and-accessories">http://www.panduit.com/wcs/Satellite?pagename=PG_Wrapper&friendlyurl=/en/products-and-services/products/cable-ties-and-accessories</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>just be sure to look for the ones suitable for outdoor use…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-Glenn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Mason<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 06, 2014 6:48 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Best Ground Racking?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>In reference to William's comments on cable ties, which are very valid, HellermannTyton makes a huge range of ties for every industry. They have a catalogue of solar components which includes stainless ties and plastic covered stainless ties. As an industry, we need to be purchasing the correct products and not going to the local Home Depot and buying home owner junk.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.hellermanntyton.us/products_solar.aspx">http://www.hellermanntyton.us/products_solar.aspx</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Kelly Larson <<a href="mailto:solarwrench@asis.com" target="_blank">solarwrench@asis.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks, Andrew. I have a stack of SolarPro waiting for the rain to hit. Looks like we are getting some soon. (Thank goodness)<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br>Blessings,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Kelly<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 4, 2014, at 11:02 PM, Andrew Truitt wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Kelly - Here are a couple of SolarPro articles that you might find helpful:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://solarprofessional.com/articles/design-installation/ground-mounted-pv" target="_blank">http://solarprofessional.com/articles/design-installation/ground-mounted-pv</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://solarprofessional.com/articles/products-equipment/racking/ground-mount-pv-racking-systems/page/0/1" target="_blank">http://solarprofessional.com/articles/products-equipment/racking/ground-mount-pv-racking-systems/page/0/1</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#38761D'>For a brighter energy future,<br><br><br>Andrew Truitt </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#38761D'>Principal<br>Truitt Renewable Energy Consulting, LLC</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#38761D'><a href="tel:%28202%29%20486-7507" target="_blank">(202) 486-7507</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andrew-truitt/8/622/713" target="_blank">LinkedIn Profile</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://truittreconsulting.weebly.com/" target="_blank">Company Website</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#38761D'>NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional ID: 032407-66</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#38761D'>Colorado Journeyman Electrician License No.: 600132</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><p><span style='color:#147DBA'><image001.jpg></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><span style='color:#147DBA'><br></span>"Don't get me wrong: I love nuclear energy! It's just that I prefer fusion to fission. And it just so happens that there's an enormous fusion reactor safely banked a few million miles from us. It delivers more than we could ever use in just about 8 minutes. And it's wireless!"<br><br>~William McDonough<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Kelly Larson <<a href="mailto:solarwrench@asis.com" target="_blank">solarwrench@asis.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Wow, William. Thank you for all the details. One size clearly doesn't fit all! I like the page with all the different wire management options you've used. Somebody tell me why we still don't have this taken care of WITH the racking... Shesh.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br>Blessings,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Kelly<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 4, 2014, at 8:47 PM, <<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com" target="_blank">william@millersolar.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com" target="_blank">william@millersolar.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kelly:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ground mount racking choice is determined on a case-by-case basis. If the ground is flat and area plentiful, we use ballasted on gravel (Dyno-Raxx). If you need to seasonally adjust, we like the DPW MPM. If the ground is sloped other than gradually south, top of pole mounts may be your choice. For flat ground, low tilt (grid-tied) “fence post” arrays like the DPW LGM work well. For high wind areas, consider the DPW TTRGM on piers spanned by strut.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Lest anyone think I am the cheering section for DPW, I suggest you avoid the DPW P6 or P8 “Tilt Kit” assemblies. The brackets are flimsy. Also, avoid DPW’s L-feet. They are bent aluminum and come pre-stress cracked at no extra cost. For L-feet, use Unirac “Serrated L-feet.”</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It is refreshing to hear someone ask about wire management upfront. All too often this is an afterthought. In the industry vacuum we have been developing wire management systems on an ongoing basis. Below is a link that depicts some of our ideas.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.millersolar.com/public_html/MillerSolar/practices/PV_wiring/_PV_Wiring2.html" target="_blank">http://www.millersolar.com/public_html/MillerSolar/practices/PV_wiring/_PV_Wiring2.html</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The Code now requires wire shielding on “readily accessible” PV which means ground mount. Just managing the wire is not enough, you must shield it from touch. One option is to enclose the PV in chain link, which ramps up the ugly factor (I don’t think three rail pasture fence or even barbed wire complies). Once you fence the array you can dispense with shielding, but you still don’t want the leads dangling in a year or two, so avoid any flavor of plastic wire ties. There have been studies proving they don’t last (US Navy is one source).</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We have looked at racking members with larger interior cross section (i.e. Pro-Solar) with the intent of running AC and DC leads inside and we have even mocked up a few, but fitting leads and the proprietary nuts into the same channel has proven impractical.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Good luck.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>William Miller</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>PS: Speaking of racking systems, did anyone get the news that SnapNRack and indeed the entire REC Residential juggernaut has been sold? </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001DOU7toids4P6EbtZ8amZnWIPqfwSVSQprZxgWcCDNMwVujGRFeNr6kDDQxv8reDLHOjQsU5ZAbim7nwyi2LH1WCwpxjpydyrqtwAXR7rGEE1Vv9y6CHdApOn8xu7viO-boKxfR0vxuRWZuQZUsi31k7EuNfvsnYtZxiDLh9hiU2snspkUXkwVWlu0bEQXhPr6iN048ijV9vyy42Nc0lSkRY8eR4Vuhj1x9WG_J42Nw3BUMy2LRo8bPk83rGlFxOIi3a3_xZ86ubEYbyk1MwQDdKVfXOrZiplaNIIzrDh6n_xz1PO28GP4feFeQCk2gd8l_yy_pAgMdOHcKD_IDW7y6eRVPj8LA5FS7-3nIgC4egIz2vMLcdeRCtjg_WNZoRohptTtbcFtULUCOupqpn91wIENm--baFFvHj0TycL7wMKVBZI340LaA==&c=-PYi8jywk0XKsL2vpOkRGCzs2UwO52AqIXjyxYLdwi6HgzYpVBBpKQ==&ch=UHlwvhDu_eij1qcoWtW5qiGLvNITtkXGLCqG4RSjo4k9OQWUYTpu8w==" target="_blank">Read the rest of this story</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Wm</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Feb 4, 2014, at 4:45 PM, Kelly Larson <<a href="mailto:solarwrench@asis.com" target="_blank">solarwrench@asis.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks, Aaron. How are you handling wire management and connection to the ground?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br>Blessings,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Kelly</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 4, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Aaron Mandelkorn wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I like SnapNrack 200 Series as well as DPW Solar Multi Pole Mount.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 4, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Kelly Larson <<a href="mailto:solarwrench@asis.com" target="_blank">solarwrench@asis.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We are looking to install some 4KW ground mounted arrays. What racking are you using? Best ground connection? Wire management? The shows have so many choices, and I keep doing the same ol thing...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br>Blessings,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Kelly</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Kelly Larson</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Electrical Engineer</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installation 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