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<br><div><div>On Feb 5, 2014, at 7:34 AM, Howie Michaelson wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>We've used SolarScrim - it works fine, reasonable cost. Used it on a<br>100kW system and went up fast, looks neat. We used it under the array,<br>changing from our original plan to use it as a perimeter. It is unclear<br>whether many AHJs will find it acceptable shielding in either<br>configuration, particularly if it is in any sort of public location.<br><br>Howie<br>-- <br>Howie Michaelson<br>NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™<br><br>Catamount Solar, LLC<br>Renewable Energy Systems Sales and Service<br>VT Solar Electric & Hot Water Incentive Partner<br><a href="http://www.CatamountSolar.com">http://www.CatamountSolar.com</a><br>802-272-0004<br><br><br>On Wed, February 5, 2014 8:57 am, Dave Click wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">A colleague found this online the other day as one potential option for<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">shielding the wires for a ground-/pole-mount system:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">http://www.solarscrim.com/index.php<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">No personal experience, though. Looks like they may ship with black zip<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">ties but Sunbundler ties (or others) would be an easy swap.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Didn't notice that REC residential/AEE had been sold. It looks like<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">SolarCity, Vivint, and Sunrun are just taking turns buying every smaller<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">solar company to make sure that the others don't get them.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On 2014/2/4, 23:47, william@millersolar.com wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Kelly:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Ground mount racking choice is determined on a case-by-case basis. If<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the ground is flat and area plentiful, we use ballasted on gravel<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">(Dyno-Raxx). If you need to seasonally adjust, we like the DPW MPM.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">If the ground is sloped other than gradually south, top of pole mounts<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">may be your choice. For flat ground, low tilt (grid-tied) "fence<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">post" arrays like the DPW LGM work well. For high wind areas,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">consider the DPW TTRGM on piers spanned by strut.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Lest anyone think I am the cheering section for DPW, I suggest you<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">avoid the DPW P6 or P8 "Tilt Kit" assemblies. The brackets are<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">flimsy. Also, avoid DPW's L-feet. They are bent aluminum and come<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">pre-stress cracked at no extra cost. For L-feet, use Unirac "Serrated<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">L-feet."<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">It is refreshing to hear someone ask about wire management upfront.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">All too often this is an afterthought. In the industry vacuum we have<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">been developing wire management systems on an ongoing basis. Below is<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">a link that depicts some of our ideas.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">http://www.millersolar.com/public_html/MillerSolar/practices/PV_wiring/_PV_Wiring2.html<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">The Code now requires wire shielding on "readily accessible" PV which<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">means ground mount. Just managing the wire is not enough, you must<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">shield it from touch. One option is to enclose the PV in chain link,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">which ramps up the ugly factor (I don't think three rail pasture fence<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">or even barbed wire complies). Once you fence the array you can<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">dispense with shielding, but you still don't want the leads dangling<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">in a year or two, so avoid any flavor of plastic wire ties. There have<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">been studies proving they don't last (US Navy is one source).<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">We have looked at racking members with larger interior cross section<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">(i.e. Pro-Solar) with the intent of running AC and DC leads inside and<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">we have even mocked up a few, but fitting leads and the proprietary<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">nuts into the same channel has proven impractical.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Good luck.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">William Miller<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">PS: Speaking of racking systems, did anyone get the news that<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">SnapNRack and indeed the entire REC Residential juggernaut has been<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">sold? Read the rest of this story<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001DOU7toids4P6EbtZ8amZnWIPqfwSVSQprZxgWcCDNMwVujGRFeNr6kDDQxv8reDLHOjQsU5ZAbim7nwyi2LH1WCwpxjpydyrqtwAXR7rGEE1Vv9y6CHdApOn8xu7viO-boKxfR0vxuRWZuQZUsi31k7EuNfvsnYtZxiDLh9hiU2snspkUXkwVWlu0bEQXhPr6iN048ijV9vyy42Nc0lSkRY8eR4Vuhj1x9WG_J42Nw3BUMy2LRo8bPk83rGlFxOIi3a3_xZ86ubEYbyk1MwQDdKVfXOrZiplaNIIzrDh6n_xz1PO28GP4feFeQCk2gd8l_yy_pAgMdOHcKD_IDW7y6eRVPj8LA5FS7-3nIgC4egIz2vMLcdeRCtjg_WNZoRohptTtbcFtULUCOupqpn91wIENm--baFFvHj0TycL7wMKVBZI340LaA==&c=-PYi8jywk0XKsL2vpOkRGCzs2UwO52AqIXjyxYLdwi6HgzYpVBBpKQ==&ch=UHlwvhDu_eij1qcoWtW5qiGLvNITtkXGLCqG4RSjo4k9OQWUYTpu8w==><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Wm<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Feb 4, 2014, at 4:45 PM, Kelly Larson <solarwrench@asis.com<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><mailto:solarwrench@asis.com>> wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Thanks, Aaron. How are you handling wire management and<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> connection to the ground?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Blessings,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Kelly<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> On Feb 4, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Aaron Mandelkorn wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> I like SnapNrack 200 Series as well as DPW Solar Multi Pole Mount.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> On Feb 4, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Kelly Larson <solarwrench@asis.com<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <mailto:solarwrench@asis.com>> wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Hi,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> We are looking to install some 4KW ground mounted arrays. What<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> racking are you using? Best ground connection? Wire management?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> The shows have so many choices, and I keep doing the same ol<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">thing...<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Blessings,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Kelly<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Kelly Larson<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Electrical 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