<html>
  <head>
    <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
      http-equiv="Content-Type">
  </head>
  <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Exactly.  That's why I always have a
      load profile for each system on file, and as soon as they're doing
      something different, we're off the hook.  It opens the door
      smoothly towards upgrading the system for their new loads.   And
      yes a new load profile, until they add even more in 5 years.  <br>
      <br>
      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760</pre>
      On 1/21/2014 10:26 AM, Dan Fink wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAF+3LnfiWZYV3imn5rt+reDbvk4POCjGfMFJ1eme2LRofHFKmQ@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">I also see lots of "load creep" Ray...."oh, forgot
        to tell you....we need to add some all-night LED area lighting
        to the system. It won't use much power......"
        <div class="gmail_extra">
          <br clear="all">
          <div>Dan Fink<br>
            <br>
             </div>
          <br>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Ray
            Walters <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:ray@solarray.com" target="_blank">ray@solarray.com</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
              .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
                <div>On these small projects, its very important to nail
                  down the exact load, to keep the pricing sane.  I list
                  on the estimate what the system is designed to do; for
                  instance 18 w load 24 hrs/ day.  Then if something
                  goes wrong and they are running more than they should
                  you just gently point out that that was not what the
                  system was designed to do.<br>
                  I learned a long time ago, that you can't take name
                  plate power draw numbers, or count on the manufacturer
                  to provide those numbers; you've got to confirm it
                  with your own monitoring equipment.<br>
                  <pre cols="72">R.Ray Walter
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:303%20505-8760" value="+13035058760" target="_blank">303 505-8760</a></pre>
                </div>
              </div>
              <br>
              List-Archive: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org"
                target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br>
              <br>
              List rules & etiquette:<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm"
                target="_blank">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br>
              <br>
              Check out participant bios:<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org"
                target="_blank">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br>
              <br>
              <br>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
          <br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
      <br>
      <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
List sponsored by Home Power magazine

List Address: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>

Change email address & settings:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a>

List-Archive: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a>

List rules & etiquette:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a>

Check out participant bios:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a>

</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </body>
</html>