<div dir="ltr"><br><div>Bill - Ray (the owner of this tool) just explained to me that in order for it to function properly it needs an additional connection to earth to complete the circuit. I.e., my issue stems from user error. Thanks for the help Ray!<div dir="ltr">
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</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 4:54 AM, Andrew Truitt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:atruitt@gmail.com" target="_blank">atruitt@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Bill - I'm using an Amprobe DGC-1000A. I let it self-calibrate and then simply clamp it on to a conductor, and it reads the impedance to ground (<a href="http://content.amprobe.com/manualsA/DGC1000.pdf" target="_blank">http://content.amprobe.com/manualsA/DGC1000.pdf</a>). I used it on a well grounded RBI system (driven piles) a few months ago and it measured ground impedances of less than 25 Ohms for all EGCs, as expected for a system with so much contact between the metal structure and earth.<div>
<br></div><div>Ray - The tray does make a good conductor. I did some more testing and any point along the tray itself gives less than 10 Ohms; its only the #10 conductors between the array and the tray where the impedance spikes. The conductors are bonded to the tray with torqued, star-washered, copper/stainless lay-in lugs. There are no ground rods in the system due to the requirements of the capped landfill, but there is a UFER ground at the equipment pad that gives readings of < 1 Ohm for the GEC.</div>
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</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Bill Brooks <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:billbrooks7@yahoo.com" target="_blank">billbrooks7@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">How are you testing the ground impedance of the EGC?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Bill.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Truitt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] EGC ground impedance<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">
Wrenches - What do you consider to be a safe ground impedance for a PV array equipment grounding conductor? NEC2011 250.53(A) says that if the impedance between the grounding <i>electrode</i> and earth is less than 25 ohms then no supplementary grounding electrode is needed, but I'm not clear on what that means for the ground impedance measurement within the array. For example, I am inspecting a ballasted landfill system (i.e. no penetrating the earth allowed - just a UFER at the equipment pad) where the ground impedance at the GEC is very low (<1 Ohm), but the array EGCs are showing ground impedances of between 500 and 1000 Ohms. The EGCs (#4) are connected to Cope cable trays, which are in turn connected to the inverter grounding bar via #4 bonding jumpers. The cable tray is grounded per manufacturer specs (large bonding jumpers at each joint), but the runs can be quite long (300'+) with many connections, though nothing appears to be loose. I intend to recommend that continuous conductors be installed to reduce array ground impedance, but any input on the issue would be very much appreciated.<u></u><u></u></p>
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