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    HI Wrenches;<br>
    <br>
    I need to make a correction to my previous post: I mistakenly called
    their new Whizbang Jr, the Gizmo Jr.  Sorry,  sometimes my flying
    fingers get ahead of my brain.<br>
    See Bob Gudgel's off list message below.   It also monitors battery
    finish charge current like the Blue Sky Controllers, to more
    accurately reach full state of charge.<br>
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      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760</pre>
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        Hi Ray !<br>
        <br>
        The Whizbang Junior works for ending amps, too, on the Classic
        controller.<br>
        <br>
        Just for folks' FYI.<br>
        <br>
        I kinda like your name, "Gizmo Jr."...   Might have to use that
        one some day for<br>
        another product.<br>
        <br>
        boB<br>
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        On 12/5/2013 5:30 PM, Ray Walters wrote:<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">First, Outback does have a
          solution: the Flexnet and Mate 3 stuff; Outback's stuff is 
          pricey though. They're also a mess to wire IMHO. <br>
          Here's 2 others to consider: Pentametric from Bogart
          Engineering, and Midnite Solar.<br>
          Midnite Solar's monitoring is free when you buy their
          controllers.  They already come with an Ethernet port too.
          (unlike Outback's)<br>
          ALso, Midnite has the new Gizmo Jr. which is a single wire
          shunt monitor connection, and they should have full State of
          Charge monitoring capability soon for it on their monitoring
          website: mymidnite.com  (also free).<br>
          <br>
          The Pentametric  is my long time go to meter, and it has a
          full Ethernet setup, but they don't have a website like
          Mymidnite.com, so you have to access the Pentametric remotely
          through the local network.  That gets into static DNS
          addresses, etc.; all that IP stuff I'm not well versed at.<br>
          I've successfully used both monitoring systems.<br>
          Also, don't just look at daily production; for off grid, you
          need battery state of charge.  <br>
          <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760</pre>
          On 12/5/2013 2:03 PM, Davis Terrell wrote:<br>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial">Hi
                          Wrenches,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial">I
                          am evaluating remote monitoring solutions for
                          an off-grid project and wanted to get any
                          feedback people were willing to share.  I see
                          my three main choices as Outback, SMA Sunny
                          Island, or an XW system, the first two of
                          which I have a good bit of experience with.  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial">It
                          looks like the only good remote options for
                          Outback are 3<sup>rd</sup> party which I
                          couldn’t get much info on, despite emails to
                          the manufacturers.  Anyone have any experience
                          with GreenHouse Gas and Electric dataloggers?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                          with a Webbox and Sunny Portal seems the most
                          straightforward, but doesn’t have real-time
                          data.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial">I
                          stumbled upon the Connext Combox on the
                          Schneider site and it looks like a great
                          product, but I am a little wary.  What
                          comments I did find out about it online
                          weren’t very favorable.  And it looks like
                          setting it up for remote access is not very
                          straightforward.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                          for any thoughts/experiences!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                      Terrell<o:p></o:p></p>
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