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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Glenn,<br>
      Thank you for responding. Here's my exploration of 300.3(B):<br>
      (This is from a draft pdf version of the 2011 Code on my laptop.)<br>
      <br>
      300.3(B) Conductors of the Same Circuit. All conductors of<br>
      the same circuit and, where used, the grounded conductor<br>
      and all equipment grounding conductors and bonding conductors<br>
      shall be contained within the same raceway, auxiliary<br>
      gutter, cable tray, cablebus assembly, trench, cable, or<br>
      cord, unless otherwise permitted in accordance with<br>
      300.3(B)(1) through (B)(4).<br>
      <br>
      300.3(B)(1) refers to Paralleled Installations, so not relevant<br>
      <br>
      300.3(B)(2) Grounding and Bonding Conductors. Equipment<br>
      grounding conductors shall be permitted to be installed outside<br>
      a raceway or cable assembly where in accordance with<br>
      the provisions of 250.130(C) for certain existing installations<br>
      or in accordance with 250.134(B), Exception No. 2,<br>
      for dc circuits. Equipment bonding conductors shall be permitted<br>
      to be installed on the outside of raceways in accordance<br>
      with 250.102(E).<br>
      <br>
      250.130(C) refers to extending branch circuits, so not relevant. <br>
      250.134(B) refers to dc circuits, so not relevant. <br>
      250.102(E) refers to bonding jumpers, so not relevant.<br>
      <br>
      So this section is not relevant.<br>
      <br>
      300.3(B)(3) Nonferrous Wiring Methods. Conductors in wiring<br>
      methods with a nonmetallic or other nonmagnetic sheath,<br>
      where run in different raceways, auxiliary gutters, cable<br>
      trays, trenches, cables, or cords, shall comply with the
      provisions<br>
      of 300.20(B). Conductors in single-conductor Type<br>
      MI cable with a nonmagnetic sheath shall comply with the<br>
      provisions of 332.31. Conductors of single-conductor Type<br>
      MC cable with a nonmagnetic sheath shall comply with the<br>
      provisions of 330.31, 330.116, and 300.20(B).<br>
      <br>
      300.20(B) Individual Conductors. Where a single conductor<br>
      carrying alternating current passes through metal with magnetic<br>
      properties, the inductive effect shall be minimized by<br>
      (1) cutting slots in the metal between the individual holes<br>
      through which the individual conductors pass or (2) passing<br>
      all the conductors in the circuit through an insulating wall<br>
      sufficiently large for all of the conductors of the circuit.<br>
      <br>
      Cutting slots in the metal of a raintight enclosure for a single
      conductor? And there's only one "individual conductor". I don't
      think so.<br>
      <br>
      It appears that technically, there's no way to do this - that
      adding the conductor in 2007 was erroneously passed, and it is
      certainly not a safety hazard. But as the original home was wired
      with buried Triplex from the meter to the home, the only way to
      meet the gnat's ass of Code compliance would have been to open up
      the trench and add a buried USE or UF cable.<br>
      <br>
      I guess I could say that it's in the same trench, as it goes from
      the same point to the same point, via a parallel path.<br>
      <br>
      Any other take on this issue? (Yeah, get an engineer's stamp,
      ignore it in hopes it will go away/be grandfathered in, bring
      extra doughnuts...)<br>
      Allan<br>
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      On 11/20/2013 11:31 AM, Glenn Burt wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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            You might also interpret 300.3(B) as requiring all
            conductors of the same circuit to be located in the same
            conduit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(B)
            Conductors of the Same Circuit. All conductors of the same
            circuit and, where used, the grounded conductor and all
            equipment grounding conductors and bonding conductors shall
            be contained within the same raceway, auxiliary gutter,
            cable tray, cablebus assembly, trench, cable, or cord,
            unless otherwise permitted in accordance with 300.3(B)(1)
            through (B)(4).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-Glenn<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>Allan Sindelar<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:05 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> August Goers; RE-wrenches<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] A related question -
                Individual AC conductors through separate conduits<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">August,<br>
            Yes, that's relevant to my question. All metal boxes are
            grounded at both ends by existing EGCs. Only the PVC conduit
            is not. So when I read section 250.110 as you have cited, "<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">all
              equipment fastened in place with exposed non-current
              carrying metal parts likely to become energized needs
              equipment grounding</span>" is covered correctly.<br>
            <br>
            This is not a huge deal - it's not difficult to pull the #4
            out and add an EGC. I'm just trying to find the appropriate
            Code reference for an oddball situation. Thank you.<br>
            Allan<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Allan Sindelar</b><br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 11/20/2013 10:44 AM, August Goers
            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">Hi
              Allan,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">Per
              NEC 250.110 all equipment fastened in place with exposed
              non-current carrying metal parts likely to become
              energized needs equipment grounding. There are some
              conditions and exceptions listed in the code so you might
              want to check through that section and apply it to your
              situation. If you had used metallic conduit such as EMT
              then the raceway itself would count for equipment ground.
              However, since it sounds like you have non-metallic
              conduit you do indeed need a equipment ground wire sized
              per table 250.122. My general rule of thumb is that all
              metal boxes and raceways need equipment ground, period. We
              run equipment ground conductors even in EMT because there
              is a chance that fittings will loosen over time. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">Anyway,
              that’s my take.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">August</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>
                  [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]
                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan Sindelar<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 19, 2013 3:34 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] A related question -
                  Individual AC conductors through separate conduits</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Wrenches,<br>
              I need similar advice, please, especially a Code section
              citation.<br>
              <br>
              In 2005 we installed an Outback system for a new home in
              town that was designed and installed to be a grid-backup
              solar home. It was, in essence, a stand-alone system to
              run most of the home with the utility serving the backup
              generator's role, both to provide backup charging when
              needed and to run a few specific loads. The home was built
              with two breaker panels side by side, with the PV system
              wired between them. The meter pedestal was 150' away at
              the edge of the street. The array was small at 1.32 kW.<br>
              <br>
              Around 2007 the interconnection terms were quite good and
              we converted this system into a grid-intertied system.
              Doing this involved replacing the early Outback FX2024
              with a GVFX3524. We also had to run an additional #4
              conductor from the system (inverter AC interactive output)
              to the meter pedestal in order to carry interactive
              sell-back energy to a REC meter, which had to be located
              next to the revenue meter. We ran this single conductor in
              1" PVC conduit with no other conductor. Given that all AC
              neutrals were properly bonded, that the conduit was
              non-conductive, and that all metal parts were properly
              bonded, we didn't run an EGC with this single THWN. We
              were permitted and and passed inspection.<br>
              <br>
              Now we are adding an additional 1.3 kW of PV to the
              system, which requires full permit process, of course. And
              in the ensuing years the home has been annexed into the
              city, with its reputation for toughness in regards to Code
              compliance. Our design team tells me that we must pull
              that #4 out and repull it with an EGC, simply because
              every current-carrying conductor must have a grounding
              conductor as well. <br>
              <br>
              My question: What Code section applies here? Is an EGC
              always required in conduit carrying a single
              current-carrying conductor? <br>
              <br>
              We're trying to have our ducks in a row before contacting
              the inspector, and have never dealt with this particular
              situation before.<br>
              Thank you,<br>
              Allan<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Allan Sindelar</b><br>
                <span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com"><span
                      style="color:#000099">Allan@positiveenergysolar.com</span></a></span><br>
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                  Founder, <b>Positive Energy, Inc.</b></span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">A
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            </div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">On 11/19/2013 11:22 AM, Dave Click
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b>300.3(B)
                Conductors of the Same Circuit.</b> All conductors of
              the same circuit and, where used, the grounded conductor
              and all equipment grounding conductors and bonding
              conductors shall be contained within the same raceway,
              auxiliary gutter, cable tray, cablebus assembly, trench,
              cable, or cord, unless otherwise permitted in accordance
              with 300.3(B)(1) through (B)(4) [which don't help here]. <o:p></o:p></p>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal">On 2013/11/19, 12:38, August Goers
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">Hi
                  All –</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">On
                  a related note, I’ve become good friends with some of
                  the inspectors in San Francisco and they called me
                  yesterday with a question. Is it okay to run <u>individual</u>
                  DC conductors through EMT for wire management
                  purposes? We have always run paired positive and
                  negative conductors in conduit so the question had
                  never occurred to me. Obviously, you have to bond both
                  ends of the conduit if it is over 250 v. I know that
                  AC would have induction issues with running individual
                  conductors but I’m not sure with DC.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">August</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">August
                  Goers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">Principal</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">Luminalt
                  Energy Corporation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">o:
                  415.641.4000</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">m:
                  415.559.1525</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A"><a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://www.luminalt.com">www.luminalt.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>
                      [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]
                      <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Miller<br>
                      <b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 18, 2013 11:33 PM<br>
                      <b>To:</b> 'RE-wrenches'<br>
                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring
                      methods</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Bill:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">There
                  is no need to stuff MC4 cables into standard conduit. 
                  You can either slot the pipe using our easy method or
                  install bulkhead type connectors.  The connectors are
                  readily available.  I get them from PV Cables in
                  Northern California..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Wire
                  routing problems and some solutions can be found on
                  our web-site:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://millersolar.com/MillerSolar/practices/PV_wiring/_PV_Wiring2.html">http://millersolar.com/MillerSolar/practices/PV_wiring/_PV_Wiring2.html</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Since
                  the industry won’t provide wire management solutions,
                  we are making our own.  Questions:  Just write or
                  call.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">William
                  Miller</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>
                      [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]
                      <b>On Behalf Of </b>frenergy<br>
                      <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:46 AM<br>
                      <b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring
                      methods</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">William, Bill....from another Bill,<o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">        Two things:  For the rest
                  of us (maybe it's just me?!) that's still trying to
                  figure out how (or why) to stuff a MC4 connector into
                  conduit and my hesitation in using SS wire ties for
                  fear of the sharp edges cutting or chaffing into
                  cables, I'm open for advice. Any wire I use on the
                  roof is rated for that type of service and I have some
                  off-grid systems that have been in the sun for some 25
                  years where the wire still looks nearly new even when
                  flexing it to look for checking/cracks.  It seems
                  the wire/insulation can take it, thus it seems like
                  the key to "wire management is to keep the wire from
                  moving and off the roof, secured to the racking, thus
                  not compromising the insulation. <o:p></o:p></p>
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