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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And watch out for theft…..I once had ordered -12- two-volt cells from by battery dealer but only -11- were on the pallet. They were delivered to a neighbor business who has a forklift and signs for me. No damage was noticed but somewhere along the way a battery was removed(most likely to sell for the lead) and the pallet re-wrapped. There was nothing I or my distributor could do for recourse. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kirk Herander<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>VT Solar, LLC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>dba Vermont Solar Engineering<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>NABCEP<sup>TM </sup>Certified Inaugural Certificant<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>NYSERDA-eligible Installer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>VT RE Incentive Program Partner<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>802.863.1202<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan Sindelar<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:43 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Hidden Freight Damage<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Luke,<br>When you first posted I forwarded your request to our warehouse manager, who's quite experienced. He didn't receive any of the responses from other Wrenches, but sent this to me this morning:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span> Inspect it immediately for obvious signs of damage. This means walking around the whole delivery or moving the boxes around to view all sides for potential damages..... <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span> Compare the number of shipping units received to the number listed on the delivery receipt. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span> Sign the delivery receipt. I always sign the papers or the scanner with the number of handling units (or boxes if its parcel) then my signature. <o:p></o:p></p><p>While the driver is there, compare the pieces you are receiving to the delivery receipt. If the condition and quantity of your shipment is acceptable, the driver will ask you to sign the delivery receipt. The driver will give you a copy and take the original signed copy with him/her (as proof of delivery).<o:p></o:p></p><p>A signed delivery receipt with no exceptions is called a "clear delivery." Clear deliveries mean there were no shortages or visible damage at the time of delivery.<o:p></o:p></p><p>A shipment invoice will be sent to the paying party soon after pickup or delivery, depending on whether the shipment is prepaid or collect.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>If a shipment is short or damaged, you can still accept the delivery with notes on the shipper papers. If the shipment is too damaged and will require extra resources in time and reshipment - refuse the whole shipment.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>It's the duty of the shipper and the consignee to mitigate the loss. After you accept the shipment, take steps to protect it from further loss and promptly file a claim for the actual shortages or damages involved.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Allan Sindelar</b><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com"><u><span style='color:#000099'>Allan@positiveenergysolar.com</span></u></a></span><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional<br>NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional<br>New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br>Founder, <b>Positive Energy, Inc.</b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>A Certified B Corporation</span><sup><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>TM</span></sup><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><br>3209 Richards Lane<br>Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507<br><b>505 424-1112 office 780-2738 cell</b><br><a href="http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/" target="_blank"><u>www.positiveenergysolar.com</u></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>On 11/5/2013 8:58 PM, Luke Christy wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Wrenches, <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Thanks to everyone who responded to my Freight Damage post. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I wouldn't wish freight nightmares on anyone, but it is somewhat comforting to hear that most folks have run into this problem over the years. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>The major takeaway seems to be that there is no substitute for a thorough inspection of every delivery, even though that's often logistically difficult. Also pushing back on the denied claim to see if the carrier will come around to some kind of settlement. Given that the carrier in question is Con-way and they are generally surly even at the local office, I don't have a lot of hope for that, but it seems worth a try. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>I'm thinking in the future it may be worth it to pay extra for lift gate service with a call-ahead so that I can receive the deliveries personally at my shop. It has been convenient to have my friends with a loading dock take delivery of my shipments, but there is only so much I can ask them to do in terms of looking for damage. In the past I have tried the tactic of having the person signing for the freight put something like "Subject to Inspection for Damage" on the BOL, but it's hard for that to work well when you never know who will actually sign for the item. Of course, with this latest broken shipment, the disclaimer didn't get on the BOL. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Thanks again. 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