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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Eric,<br>
      A Trace 2548 with automatic generator start? I don't believe there
      ever was such a thing. I suspect that you're referring to either a
      SW4048 or SW5548. If so, your first step is to check the error
      codes, some of which are found in Menu Heading 2 (for
      generator-related issues) and the rest in Heading 5. Any "Yes"
      message as you scroll through them is a good hint. <br>
      <br>
      This inverter is at least 13 years in service, likely more. Sounds
      like a pre-GTI Y2K system. The units are remarkably robust and
      reliable, but it may well have a glitch in the firmware or
      voltage/frequency sensors. The extra inverter is your ace in the
      hole, once you determine what the issue is.<br>
      Allan<br>
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      On 10/17/2013 10:41 AM, SunHarvest wrote:<br>
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      <div><font face="Arial" size="2">I have encountered a Trace 2548
          in seemingly good working condition. I was called out to
          troubleshoot a Grid-tied, battery back-up system with the
          following problem:</font></div>
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      <div><font face="Arial" size="2">- Upon loss of grid power
          there is about a 5 second lapse (no power to house) before the
          BB system engages. Power to the critical loads panel from the
          Trace is restored after the 5 second lapse.</font></div>
      <div><font face="Arial" size="2">- After another 5 seconds the
          Trace will disconnect power to the loads. This on-off cycle
          continues until grid power is restored.</font></div>
      <div> </div>
      <div><font face="Arial" size="2">After checking voltage & S.G.
          values, I determined that the 11 year old batteries needed to
          be replaced and I assumed this was the cause of the Trace
          on-off cycling.</font></div>
      <div><font face="Arial" size="2">I also found that half of his PV
          array had bad BP modules. BP replaced all of the modules under
          somewhat of a warranty. So, new modules, new batteries, and a
          new Outback FM60 charge controller. After all upgrades I ran
          through a simulated power outage again and the intermittent
          power problem persists!</font></div>
      <div> </div>
      <div><font face="Arial" size="2">He also has gen support enabled -
          connection to an Onan "RV Genset BGE NHE (??) - and when I
          start the genny from the inverter, by selecting "On" not
          "Auto", the genset fires right up but only stays on for about
          30 seconds before it too shuts off and enters a cycling
          between auto-starting from the inverter and shutting down.</font></div>
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      <div><font face="Arial" size="2">This behavior is beyond me. So,
          I'm seeking help from the pros. Anyone know what's going on
          here? The customer has another Trace 2548, unused, sitting in
          a box. So, if I needed to I could swap out the inverter and
          see if that makes a difference...?</font></div>
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      <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Eric</font></div>
      <div><font face="Arial" size="2">SunHarvest</font></div>
      <div><font face="Arial" size="2">(530)798-3738</font></div>
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