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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Chris,<br>
This issue is being covered in the RE media quite actively, as
threats to industry success such as these can set precedents in
other states.<br>
Check out
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/fight-over-battery-backed-solar-in-southern-california?utm_source=Solar&utm_medium=Picture&utm_campaign=GTMDaily">http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/fight-over-battery-backed-solar-in-southern-california?utm_source=Solar&utm_medium=Picture&utm_campaign=GTMDaily</a>.
That's from this week.<br>
Allan<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Allan <span class="SpellE">Sindelar</span></b><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a
href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com"><u><span
style="color:#000099">Allan@positiveenergysolar.com</span></u></a></span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt">NABCEP Certified PV
Installation Professional<br>
NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional<br>
New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br>
Founder, <b>Positive Energy, Inc.<o:p></o:p></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">A
Certified B <span class="SpellE">Corporation<sup><span
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w:st="on">87507</st1:postalcode></st1:address><br>
<b>505 424-1112 office 780-2738 cell</b><br>
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On 9/24/2013 2:32 PM, Chris Daum wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="304122920-24092013"><font
face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">Brian:</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="304122920-24092013"></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="304122920-24092013"><font
face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">The LADWP engineer
(Tony Ramirez) advised the inspector (Brenden Owens) who
told my customer (who, ironically, is retired from working
at LADWP) that he couldn't have a straight battery-based
system. And has to interface his system with a batteryless
grid-tie inverter.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="304122920-24092013"></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="304122920-24092013"><font
face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">You know any of these
guys? Got any clout with them?</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="304122920-24092013"></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="304122920-24092013"><font
face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">--Chris Daum</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="304122920-24092013"><font
face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">Oasis Montana Inc.</font></span></div>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Brian Teitelbaum<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Utilities see battery bank
as parasitic load?<br>
</font><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Chris,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Is
that the “inspector” saying that, or the LADWP rep?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Brian
Teitelbaum<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">AEE
Solar<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE:
10pt"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Chris Daum<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 24, 2013 12:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'RE-wrenches'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Utilities see battery bank
as parasitic load?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hello Wrenches:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Ok, here's one for
you. We have a customer whose utility provider is L.A.
Dept. of Water & Power; he's getting ready to install
his battery-based grid-tie system with a Radian inverter,
load center, HUB4, eight - 250W modules....etc. But the
inspector is calling foul, saying his 'battery bank is a
parasitic load" <span style="COLOR: blue"> -- </span><span
style="COLOR: black">the inspector also claims that the
battery bank is a “generator”</span><span style="COLOR:
navy"> </span>so he must utilize a straight grid-tie
inverter (5KW Power One) and make this an AC coupled
system to be legal.<span style="COLOR: blue"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <span
style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The
question then becomes; does the PowerOne GT5kW inverter
play nicely with the Outback Radian when the Radian is the
BB Inverter? </span><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Maybe
there is a way to save our customer the cost of the new
PowerOne inverter if we configure the Radian differently?</span><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy;
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </span><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </span><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue;
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Any advice <span
style="COLOR: black">or suggestions that</span><span
style="COLOR: navy"> </span><span style="COLOR: black">you
can offer would be most helpful!</span><span
style="COLOR: blue"> </span><span style="COLOR: black"> </span>And
is anyone else running into this? It just seems crazy.<span
style="COLOR: blue"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Chris Daum</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Oasis Montana Inc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">406-777-4309</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">406-777-0830 fax <span
style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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