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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> >> Funny reminds me of the old days, </span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I seem to recall a lot of years back, on this same discussion site, a similar exchange. It seems that one installer was looking for advice concerning an overly demanding customer with unreasonable expectations for a PV systems performance. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The customer was the Dept. of Defense. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Opposing points-of-view questioned why any Wrench in their right mind would waste perfectly good, and expensive, PV on someone whose goal was world domination and death to all who opposed them. I’ll sell ‘em PV because I’m in the business of selling PV was the response. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Other debates have sprung from Wrenches complaining that potential customers have two SUVs parked in front of a 6500 sf home. These people clearly don’t get it! Why should I waste PV on them?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The answer is always the same. Because it’s what we do.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>McMansion owners and the DOD are now believers and established customers. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Now there is no one that wouldn’t agree that the growing exodus from our decaying, congested and polluted urban metromess will not continue to increase. It’s no different now than years ago. Sell them all the PV they are willing to pay for but do it with unabashed honesty. And when they are neck deep in challenges from their lifestyle decision, they will always remember that you warned them that it would be like this. And they will respect you for it if they have an ounce of integrity. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>This new generation of get-out-of-town with their all-electric lifestyle may be our next market segment to deal with. If you don’t want their business then some other PV installer will. If the job’s done right the first time it benefits us all. If not we all take one step back. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Our industry competition includes the coal, natural gas and electric utility cartel. They and a lot of politicians, stand shoulder to shoulder in opposition to individuals generating their own power. You had better take every customer you can get and make a believer out of them because the competition is doing everything they can to put up hurdles to PV growth. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>And because ours is one of those industries that trains-your-competition it’s important that we train them to high standards. It’s not easy being a pioneer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Jim Duncan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Hilton Dier III<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 17, 2013 9:13 AM</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'><br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] PV Assist - customer management<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>This: "PS: the "good" customers are not necessarily the greenest people, they are the ones that reduce consumption as best they can, do their homework, trust me and pay on time."<br><br>I'd add, "and have a grasp on the realities of the situation."<br><br>There are people who will never grasp that you can't consistently leave a battery at 90% DOD for a week without shortening its life. Or that solar irradiance drops in the winter. You can recite the facts to them and they will nod and look like they are absorbing information, but memory fades and a month later they will complain about the exact thing you explained to them.<br><br>William, whatever you do with these clients, I recommend that you write a short disclaimer about battery life and have them read it and sign it. "I acknowledge that this particular design and implementation is not ideal for long battery life. I do not expect the battery banks as installed and used to last their advertised cycle life." Or something like that. When they ask why you aren't designing it differently, quote them the price for a system that would preserve the batteries. Pick their jaw up off the ground for them, hand it back, and make them sign. At the very least it will put them on notice that the reality of the situation is not ideal.<br><br>Good luck.<br><br>Hilton<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Hilton Dier III<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Renewable Energy Design<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Partner, Solar Gain LLC<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>453 East Hill Rd.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Middlesex, VT 05602<o:p></o:p></pre></div></body></html>