<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Often the CCC inverters have a very high standby power draw, and some shut off at 15 volts so you cannot equalize.  The don't have chargers and transfer switches.  They are not UL listed.  Some don't allow proper grounding, with negative battery and neutral bonded. They don't offer much motor starting surge.  </div><div>David Katz</div><div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Aug 9, 2013, at 8:08 AM, "RE Ellison" <<a href="mailto:reellison@gmail.com">reellison@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Do they have a charger or just a CCC inverter?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Harbor freight sells units like this. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Unless they are a continuing customer or a friend, I would be inclined to tell them good luck. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">PLEASE call someone else, asap!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We know how this story will end,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a> [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Drake<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 09, 2013 9:24 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] 2500 W inverter for $300<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">A couple of customers have found 2500 W inverters rated as true sine wave for prices in the $300 range. My strong gut feeling is that they are junk, but I have no experience with these. They feel the inverters from Outback, Magnum etc are far overpriced.<br><br>What would you say to a customer who wanted to purchase one of the units?<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Drake <br><br><br>Drake Chamberlin<br><i>Athens Electric LLC<br>OH License 44810<br>CO License 3773<br>NABCEP Certified PV<br>740-448-7328<br></i><a href="http://athens-electric.com/">http://athens-electric.com/</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>List sponsored by Home Power magazine</span><br><span></span><br><span>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Change email address & settings:</span><br><span><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>List-Archive: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>List rules & etiquette:</span><br><span><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Check out participant bios:</span><br><span><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a></span><br><span></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>