<html><head><base href="x-msg://84/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">HI Eric,<div><br></div><div>Sounds like the "stop absorb" might have been enabled.</div><div>This will stop the AGS when the battery volts reach absorb setpoint.</div><div><br></div><div>But has no impact if starting the generator manually.</div><div><br></div><div>jay</div><div><br></div><div>peltz power</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div bgcolor="#ffffff"><div><font size="2" face="Arial">Sounds like you talked to the right guy, that's his info...except that he has, according to what he told me, an SW not an XW. I'm assuming he's maybe at 50% capacity on his original 1260Ah bank based on everything he told me this morning. He did say that his bank will last him through the night and that he has some pretty hefty air conditioning loads. He also said he had equalized in the past but not in the last 18 months. I'm just not convinced that his batteries are shot. But all this battery talk may be beside the point if he's not experiencing the same on/off cycling problem when he manually starts the genny, right? That is, assuming the disco settings remain in effect regardless of start mechanism. Thanks for indulging me tocayo.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">Eric</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">SunHarvest</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">001.530.798.3738 (Cell)<br></font></div><blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="Eric.Bentsen@schneider-electric.com" href="mailto:Eric.Bentsen@schneider-electric.com">Eric.Bentsen@schneider-electric.com</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, August 07, 2013 12:54 PM</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [RE-wrenches] SW AGS</div><div><br></div><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Hi Eric,</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif"> Sounded like bad batteries to me also (I think he called in this AM). He has (2) XW6048 units that are<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">capable of 200ADC between them, and he also has 1260Ah of flooded capacity. DC Start V is set for 46.5V, so if we assume he was close to 50%<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">discharge (depending on load), it should take almost 2 hours to reach the bulk voltage (80% replaced). His batteries were ramping up to bulk<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">in just a couple of minutes, meaning the batteries were not absorbing the charge. I have heard varying opinions on the symptoms of sulfation,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">but it does sound like a battery issue (5 yrs old). He was advised to equalize to try and recover them (he has never done this), or replace them.</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Rgds,</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br></font><font color="#008000" size="3">_____________________________________________________________________________________</font><font size="3"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></font><font size="1" face="Arial"><b><br>Eric Bentsen</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> | </font><font color="#008000" size="1" face="Arial"><b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Schneider Electric<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></font><font size="1" face="Arial"><b> | Solar Business</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> | <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>UNITED STATES</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> | <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Technical Support Representative</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><br>Phone:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>+(650) 351-8237 ext. 001# | <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><br>Email:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font><a href="mailto:eric.bentsen@schneider-electric.com"><font color="blue" size="1" face="Arial"><u>eric.bentsen@schneider-electric.com</u></font></a><font size="1" face="Arial"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> | <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Site:</b></font><a href="http://www.schneider-electric.com/solar" target="_blank"><font color="blue" size="1" face="Arial"><u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>www.schneider-electric.com/solar</u></font></a><font size="1" face="Arial"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> | <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Address:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>250 South Vasco Rd., Livermore, CA 94551<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></font><font color="blue" size="1" face="Arial"><u><br></u></font><a href="www.schneider-electric.com/solar"><span><Mail Attachment.jpeg></span></a><font color="#00a000" size="1" face="Arial"><br>*** Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail</font><font size="1" face="Arial"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font><font size="3"><br></font><br><br><br><table width="100%"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td><font color="#5f5f5f" size="1" face="sans-serif">From:</font></td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">"SunHarvest" <<a href="mailto:eric@harvesthesun.com">eric@harvesthesun.com</a>></font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td><font color="#5f5f5f" size="1" face="sans-serif">To:</font></td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">"RE-wrenches" <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>></font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td><font color="#5f5f5f" size="1" face="sans-serif">Date:</font></td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">08/07/2013 12:39 PM</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td><font color="#5f5f5f" size="1" face="sans-serif">Subject:</font></td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">[RE-wrenches] SW AGS</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td><font color="#5f5f5f" size="1" face="sans-serif">Sent by:</font></td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif"><a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a></font></td></tr></tbody></table><br><hr noshade=""><br><br><br><font size="2" face="Arial">I read through the archives on the XW AGS thread but have a query on behalf of a customer with an SW AGS issue. I'm heading out to the remote site tomorrow and would like, if possible, to show up knowing what I might be up against.</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><font size="3"> </font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><font size="2" face="Arial">The customer recently replaced his AGS for his two SW 6048s and then upgraded his firmware a week later. He reported that his problem with the AGS began after firmware upgrade. Here's the particular issue:</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><font size="3"> </font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><font size="2" face="Arial">AGS will try to start the 15.8kW Multi-Quip genny due to low battery voltage (event 306 DCV start). After about 5 minutes the AGS will stop the genny due to battery absorption level reached (event 313 ABS stop). The AGS will go through this event 306/313 cycle on and off until the homeowner shuts down the AGS. To me this sounds like bad batteries. But, the homeowner says this cycling does not occur when he manually starts the generator. This doesn't sound like a complicated problem but so far I'm unfamiliar with the SW AGS. So, I would greatly appreciate any insight you guys can offer me.</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><font size="3"> </font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><font size="2" face="Arial">Thanks!!</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><font size="3"> </font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><font size="2" face="Arial">Eric<br>SunHarvest<br>001.530.798.3738 (Cell)</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><font size="3"><br>______________________________________________________________________<br>This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service.<br>______________________________________________________________________</font><tt><font size="2">_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br><br>List Address:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Change email address & settings:<br></font></tt><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org"><tt><font size="2">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</font></tt></a><tt><font size="2"><br><br>List-Archive:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font></tt><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org"><tt><font size="2">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</font></tt></a><tt><font size="2"><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br></font></tt><a href="www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm"><tt><font size="2">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</font></tt></a><tt><font size="2"><br><br>Check out participant bios:<br></font></tt><a href="www.members.re-wrenches.org"><tt><font size="2">www.members.re-wrenches.org</font></tt></a><tt><font size="2"><br><br></font></tt><br><br><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><hr><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br><br>List Address:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Change email address & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br><br>List Address:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Change email address & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>