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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Corey;<br>
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      Would you mind sharing what relay didn't work, and which ones did,
      along with inverter output current?  Since the relays will be
      running for hours at inverter rated output,  my thinking would be
      to oversize the relay by at least a factor of three.  I might try
      Outback's relay/ breaker ( ROCB) if possible. <br>
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      Thanks again for sharing,<br>
      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
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      On 7/31/2013 12:24 PM, Corey Shalanski wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Mac,
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        <div>We have installed about ten AC coupled Magnum systems over
          the past year.<br>
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          <div class="gmail_extra">Overcharge protection is accomplished
            by frequency shift, but Magnum recommends an auxiliary form
            of battery management. The cheapest way to do this is to
            program the relay driver on the Magnum advanced remote
            control (ARC) to open/close a solid state relay at specified
            battery voltage setpoints - similar to what Kelly mentioned.
            Unfortunately the "cheapest way" sometimes comes back to
            haunt us in the form of unanticipated extra costs. We had
            two customer callbacks indicating their inverter had
            mysteriously shut down - site visit revealed a fried relay
            in each case.. so I would recommend at least investing in a
            good quality relay if you choose this route.</div>
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          <div class="gmail_extra">One other thing we have learned is
            that not all grid interactive inverters are compatible with
            the Magnum inverters. Specifically Power One Aurora string
            inverters cannot seem to synchronize in off-grid mode - we
            have had to switch out Auroras on two projects because of
            this. We have had no such synchronization issues with SMA
            inverters so far.</div>
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          <div class="gmail_extra">--</div>
          <div class="gmail_extra">Corey Shalanski</div>
          <div class="gmail_extra">Joule Energy</div>
          <div class="gmail_extra">New Orleans, LA</div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 Mac Lewis <<a
                moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:maclewis1@gmail.com">maclewis1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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                <br>
                Here is a paper on AC coupling the magnum.<br>
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href="http://www.wholesalesolar.com/pdf.folder/inverter%20pdf%20folder/MagnumACcoupling.pdf"
                  target="_blank">http://www.wholesalesolar.com/pdf.folder/inverter%20pdf%20folder/MagnumACcoupling.pdf</a><br>
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                The key is to connect the AC input terminals on the
                Magnum to the main<br>
                panel (or a panel closer to the utility feed) and then
                feed the utility<br>
                interactive inverter to a subpanel that is connected to
                the AC output<br>
                terminals on the Magnum.  Under normal operation, the
                Magnum passes the<br>
                power through and the utility interactive inverter is
                connected to the<br>
                grid.  If the grid goes down, the internal relays
                isolate the Magnum and<br>
                the critical load panel from the grid and the Magnum
                starts to make a sine<br>
                wave that the UI inverter will export power to.<br>
                <br>
                You have to keep the critical load panel amperage below
                the pass through<br>
                rating on the internal relays on the Magnum, and the
                grid connected<br>
                inverter needs to have a lower output than the Magnum (I
                think by 10%).<br>
                 Also, I'm not sure if the diversion controller Magnum
                has been working on<br>
                is out yet or not.<br>
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                I've never done this, but I am about to.  Any wrenches
                have experience<br>
                doing an AC coupled magnum?<br>
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