<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Jason<br><br></div>Accuracy of measurements is dependent on the size of the hotspot and the circle in the bulls eye of the camera, see the module attached to Randy's response. The big problem with the less expensive cameras is that ratio is totally distance dependent, and you need to get really close to get an accurate measurement. As far as I know that can change with interchangeable lens only available on more expensive models. It is one thing to be looking at a 6" cell in a panel and another to be looking valves and flow through smaller pipes. Also realize that there will be some interpretation in the results because you can only see heat that gets radiated through the pipes, especially if using PVC. I bet it would be an awesome trouble shooting tools though, often you can find the answers you need with less fun tools! I have been really satisfied with my Flir E-40 which has a lot of useful features not available in the lower models, I believe it ran me about $4500 a couple of years ago, but i am sure the prices have been dropping as they are selling more and more of them! I definitely would recommend one of the E series if you are serious about using it and the lower models only if you are curious and want an entry level camera to get familiar with the technology. Flir has an awesome online learning course that can help you decide the best tool for what you want to do!<br>
<br></div>Bill<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Jason Szumlanski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jason@fafcosolar.com" target="_blank">jason@fafcosolar.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>I've been considering this for solar thermal (pool heating) applications. Any comments on how far away these can be effective? For example, what if I am 30 feet away, trying to diagnose a flow rate issue through a large array of panels? I would need to get far enough away to get the whole system in the field of view. Would I be able to see hot spots where panels have no flow of water?</p>
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</font></span><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Jun 12, 2013 11:14 AM, "Randy" <<a href="mailto:randy@positiveenergysolar.com" target="_blank">randy@positiveenergysolar.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Andrew,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">We purchased the Flir I7 based on Bill Brooks recommendations. It has worked well. Plenty of battery life for doing large arrays<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">We have evaluated over 400kW of arrays and we have found issues – we found modules that show hot cells. We learned the temperature impact of shading and dirt or bird poop on the module. We discovered 7 modules at one 120kW site and when we did IV curves we found only one module had reduced output. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">See attached photo as an example.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Good luck.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Randy<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Truitt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 11, 2013 4:55 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Thermal imaging<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Wrenches - I am considering the purchase of a thermal imaging camera for PV system commissioning applications. Prices seem to range from $1,000 to $10,000+. Primary manufacturers seem to be Fluke and Flir, with Extech, Ideal and Milwaukee offering a few products as well. It seems to me that the key factors to consider are temperature range, thermal sensitivity, screen resolution, screen size, battery life, type of image capture and price. Does anyone have experience with using thermal imaging to identify temperature irregularities in modules and/or electrical equipment? What temperature range, thermal sensitivity, and screen resolution is needed for both/either of these tasks? What have been the key factors/specifications in terms of ergonomics and functionality? Any preferences in terms of manufacturer?<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#006600">For a brighter energy future,<br>
<br><br>Andrew Truitt <br>NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#006600">™</span><span style="color:#006600"> (ID# 032407-66)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#006600">Principal<br>Truitt Renewable Energy Consulting, LLC</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#006600"><a href="tel:%28202%29%20486-7507" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">(202) 486-7507</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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