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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Eric,<br>
      Please explain further, as what you wrote makes no sense to me.
      Mac didn't indicate whether he wanted to charge a flooded battery
      (~29.2V) or sealed (~28.4V). The C-series of PWM controllers has a
      fixed two-hour absorption, which it only counts down once the bulk
      voltage is reached. If the bulk voltage setpoint is above the MPP
      of the module, as it is in this case, how can it ever reach float,
      as you suggest?<br>
      <br>
      And further, this is spec-sheet calculation. In all but the
      coldest winter weather, the Vmp of the module will be lower still
      as the module temperature rises above 25ºC, and is likely to be
      even below the float voltage in hot weather. And in the winter, if
      the battery is also cold, it will need a higher voltage still to
      get fully charged.<br>
      <br>
      So I'm with Bob-O on this one. You can't charge a 24V battery with
      a 20V module. Please tell us how I'm wrong.<br>
      Thanks, Allan<br>
      <br>
      P.S. - And while I'm on a virtual roll, please tell your
      engineering folks to build a charge controller with a higher
      voltage input window. I don't mean 600 volts at $1,500 or whatever
      it is; just higher than 150V. On a 48V system, we're stuck with
      series strings of three modules if we use the lowest-cost-per-watt
      60-cell modules. That means that systems have to be designed with
      arrays in ~750-watt increments. Give us another 50-100V or so of
      headroom, so we can design with strings in multiples of 3, 4, or
      5. Outback, are you listening too? The Midnite Classic does this
      for us... Thanks.<br>
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      On 6/4/2013 10:43 AM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Eric.Bentsen@schneider-electric.com">Eric.Bentsen@schneider-electric.com</a> wrote:<br>
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      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">Hi Mac,</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">A PWM charge controller, such as
        the
        C35, will work in this application, because it will </font>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">act like a switch that connects
        the
        panel to the battery. While the bulk voltage will likely be
        slightly</font>
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      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">higher than Vmp, once the
        controller
        transitions to float, which is approx 27V for most battery
        types,</font>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">it should allow the module to
        operate
        very close to Vmp. </font>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">Typically, MPPT controllers
        require
        a higher Vmp than the target charge voltage.</font>
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            <td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Mac Lewis
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            <td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">06/04/2013 08:05 AM</font>
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            <td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">[RE-wrenches] 24V
                charging with 60 cell
                modules</font>
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      <font size="3">Hello wrenches,</font>
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      <font size="3">Is there a good method to charge 24V battery bank
        with
        single 60 cell modules?  Ideally, I'd like to charge a 24 V bank
        with
        a Kyocera 245GX-LFB.  However, at NOTC the Vmp is 26.8V.  Any
        good way to do this?</font>
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      <font size="3">Thanks in advance.<br>
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