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<DIV><SPAN class=677435023-28052013><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Jim, </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=677435023-28052013><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=677435023-28052013><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I have
done exactly this before (old, but not dead car batteries) with the XW and
no problems at all. In fact, due to the XW's flawed charging algorithms my
default config is to set the batteries to the lowest possible Ah setting.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=677435023-28052013><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I've
not tried with Outback but can't see how it would be a problem.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=677435023-28052013><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Kevin</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Jim
MacDonald<BR><B>Sent:</B> May 28, 2013 1:33 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
RE-wrenches<BR><B>Subject:</B> [RE-wrenches] Xantrex XW or Outback with very
small temporarybattery bank<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Hi
wrenches<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
have a "friend of a friend" that wants a 6kW grid tie with battery backup
system, but does not have the money to buy everything at the
moment.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Right
now, he can afford the PV + inverter + BoS, but estimates that he's need to
put aside $$ for about a year before he can afford a proper battery
bank.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">He'd
like to consume/ sell all solar kWh this year; during this time in a blackout
he'd be outta luck and he knows that.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Was
thinking about "fooling" the inverter with a temp battery bank of (4) used 12v
car batteries just so it can see voltage and turn on.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Outback
says their Flex "needs" 100 ah minimum, and the Radian would need 350 ah
minimum; Xantrex XW 100 ah.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Im
wondering how they'd know the battery bank was so shallow if it were to never
cycle.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">And
of course if we could perform a memory wipe/ factory reset on the CCs in a
year's time and then install a nice new 48v deep cycle 800 ah batt
bank.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Has
anyone ever tried to connect a too-small battery bank to a battery-based /
grid-tied inverter, and had the inverter not work because the bank was too
small?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">(If
there are old threads on this please let me know)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">thanks<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Jim
MacDonald <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>