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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><br id="FontBreak"><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">The syste<font style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">m is pre-existing. <font style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2"><font style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">This is <font style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">a </font><font style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">b</font></font>attery replacement only. 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message from your computer system. Thank you.</span></font></p><br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: bob-o@electronconnection.com<br>Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:37:50 -0700<br>To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org<br>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] 24V Rolls Charging Parameters?<br><br>Wayne,<div>In the first place, 4 parallel strings of anything is a very bad idea. Micro resistances in cabling and connections plus eddy currents and the like will, over time, inherently unbalance the pack. Doing frequent EQ charges will be required but will not overcome the inherently bad design of too many parallel strings. If you want to stay with Surrette, one string of 24 2-YS-31PS will give you about the same capacity in one tasty, electrically happy string. Lots more money, I get that, but that would be the ideal situation. As a fallback, do yourself a favor and spec out 12 of the 4KS-21PS so that you have just two parallel strings. Should even be a little less dough.</div><div>Jamie Surette (<a href="mailto:james@surrette.com">james@surrette.com</a>) is usually pretty good at returning emails and calls. His would be, without doubt, your best opinion as to a proper charge regime for his batts.</div><div>Good Luck. If you go with four strings, you'll need it.</div><div>bob-O</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Apr 29, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Wayne Irwin wrote:</div><br class="ecxApple-interchange-newline"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium;"><div class="ecxhmmessage" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;"><div dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">Hello Wrenches,<br><br><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">Please provide yo<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">ur<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span></font>opinions on the proper<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">char<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">ging</font></font></font></font></font><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span>voltages</font></font></font></font></font></font></font><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span></font>(e.g. bulk<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">, float, eq<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">,<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">),</font><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span>and recommended duration<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">s<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">.</font><br><br><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">The bank consists of 12 - Rolls 8CS25P (820AH @ 20hr rate) (4 strings of 3). Design<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span>based partly on budget limitations<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">.</font></font><br><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><br>FYI<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">.<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span></font>The system<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span>is off grid and<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">con<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">s<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">ists of an<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">8KW array,</font><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span>2<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span>- OB VFX 3524 I<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">nv's.<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span></font>an<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">d 5 - OB MX<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">80 CC's.</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font><br><br><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">I have gener<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">al parameters<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">programmed based on AH's but woul<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">d like to<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span>have addition<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">al opinions/suggestions to<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">compare and<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">/or see if there is<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">something that I have missed</font></font></font>.<br><br>I have not yet<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">received</font><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span>any feedback from Rolls t<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">ech support ..... James?</font><br><br><font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2">Thanks in advance<font style="font-size:10pt;" size="2"><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span>for your help,</font></font><br id="ecxFontBreak"></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font><br><br><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2">Wayne Irwin</font><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2">,<br></font><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2">President</font><br><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2">License #CVC56695<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span></font><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2"><br></font><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2">State Licensed Solar Contractor</font><br><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2">Pure Energy Solar International Inc.<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span></font><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2"><br></font><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2"></font><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2"><a href="mailto:PureEnergySolar@hotmail.com">Wayne@PureEnergySolar.com</a></font><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2"><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span></font><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2"><br></font><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2"></font><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2"><a href="http://pureenergysolar.net/" target="_blank">http://PureEnergySolar.com</a></font><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2"><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span></font><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2"><br></font><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2"></font><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2">352 377-6527 Office</font><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2"><br></font><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2">352 336-3299 Fax</font><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2"><br></font><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2"><br><br></font><div style="padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;"><font style="font-size:10pt;" color="#76923C" size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">The content of this message is Pure Energy Solar Confidential. 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