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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Chris, et al:<br>
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The EcoGen (6kw) was designed by Generac & the Propane Council
from the ground up to run on LP, and to be used in an off-grid
application. I've owned one for about 3 years now and I am very
pleased with it. My home PV system is a 5.5 kW array into a
Schneider XW system that is grid-tied battery-backup, with
generator assist.<br>
<br>
Our grid in Irving TX is very reliable, with few outages. I like
the security of knowing I will have power if/when an outage does
occur. It's hard to but a price on that when one does a
cost/benefit analysis. Most, if not all, of the customers I've had
wanting GTBB systems are motivated in the same way.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Gary Willett<br>
Icarus Solar<br>
<br>
On 4/26/13 1:41 PM, Chris Mason wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">The Generac Guardian are field convertible to
propane. I imagine you can install a propane tank as we do here.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Bill
Turberville <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:billturb@ece-llc.com" target="_blank">billturb@ece-llc.com</a>></span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
have done that with several customers, but those
generators were natural gas, and their concern is if
we have an earth quake and lose natural gas, since
we are on the New Madrid fault.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Mason<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 26, 2013 1:36 PM</span></p>
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<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Back-up
and Grid Tie</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For the price that you would
spend on batteries and a Sunny Island system,
you could buy and install a generator. I would
go that route.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at
1:33 PM, Bill Turberville <<a
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href="mailto:billturb@ece-llc.com"
target="_blank">billturb@ece-llc.com</a>>
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style="color:#1f497d">Not very often,
and usually for no more than an hour or
two, although it has been down as long
as 5 days, either during tornado season,
or ice taking down power lines. What
these people are looking for is Just In
Case a big event happens. They do not
want to have all those panels just
sitting there.</span></p>
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style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jay Peltz<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 26, 2013
12:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches]
Battery Back-up and Grid Tie</span></p>
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Hi bill</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just how often is
your grid down?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jay</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Peltz power<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone</p>
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On Apr 26, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Bill
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area where there is a Feed In
Tariff. Everything that is
generated by the PV array feeds
into the grid through a Generation
Meter that ties-in ahead of the
house meter. I have started
getting calls from customers who
hate having a solar array that
does not generate when the grid is
down but the sun is shining, but
who also want to get the $.12
premium when the grid is
connected. We have lots of
systems with SMA Sunnyboy
inverters, but more with Enphase
micro-inverters. Rather than
trying to reinvent the wheel, what
you found to be the best solution
for this type of installation?</p>
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