<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Last summer. I know Frank had some health issues, so I don't mean to be uncompassionate, but my customers were very unhappy and we lost several. Seemed that the 500 was everything we needed, almost too good to be true. Bottom line is, you get what you pay for.<div><br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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<br><div><div>On Apr 11, 2013, at 2:15 PM, <a href="mailto:mark@hurshtown.com">mark@hurshtown.com</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; "><div style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt; ">The <i>original post</i> was unsupported.</div><div style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt; "><br></div><div><font face="verdana, geneva" size="2">Yes, as I alluded, the controllers have had some rough periods.</font></div><div><font face="verdana, geneva" size="2">I had one entire batch of MPPT500s that didn't track at all, but he did make things right.</font></div><div><font face="verdana, geneva" size="2">Frank has had some very serious health issues off and on too.</font></div><div><font face="verdana, geneva" size="2">During what time-frame did you use the controllers?</font></div>
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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] BZ Products Charge Controllers<br>
From: Jonathan Hill <<a href="mailto:solarjon@gmail.com">solarjon@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: Thu, April 11, 2013 1:59 pm<br>
To: RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>
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Not at all unsupported. We tried them for about 4 months, about 50% failure rate (sold about 25), Many promises about delivery dates, rarely kept.<div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Jon Hill</div><div><a target="_blank" href="mailto:solarjon@gmail.com">solarjon@gmail.com</a></div><div>530-559-3781</div></div></div></div></div> </div> <br><div><div>On Apr 11, 2013, at 4:11 AM, <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:mark@hurshtown.com">mark@hurshtown.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite" style="border-left: blue 2px solid; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px;"><div><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; "><div>I have used Frank's controllers for many years. </div><div>There have been a few bad batches, but I would not dismiss them summarily <span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">with a cheap unsupported statement.</span></div><div><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Mark</span></div><div style=""><br style=""></div> <blockquote id="replyBlockquote" webmail="1" style="border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: blue; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px; font-size: 10pt; font-family: verdana; "> <div id="wmQuoteWrapper"> -------- Original Message --------<br> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] BZ Products Charge Controllers<br> From: Jonny Hill <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:solarjon@gmail.com">solarjon@gmail.com</a>><br> Date: Wed, April 10, 2013 9:21 pm<br> To: RE-wrenches <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br> <br> <div>We tried them. Forget it! Too bad but they suck!</div><div><br>Jon Hill<div>Senior solar design engineer</div><div>530-559-3781</div><div><a target="_blank" href="mailto:solarjon@solarelectricsupply.com">solarjon@solarelectricsupply.com</a></div><div><a target="_blank" href="http://solarelectricsupply.com/">http://solarelectricsupply.com</a></div></div><div><br>On Apr 10, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Nathan Stumpff <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:Nathan@arcticsun-llc.com">Nathan@arcticsun-llc.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="border-left: blue 2px solid; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px;"><!--[if !mso]><style>
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</style><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;">Hello wrenches,<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;">Anyone have any experience with BZ Products charge controllers? Kind of thin website (<a target="_blank" href="http://bzproducts.net/">http://bzproducts.net/</a>) but it seems like a pretty slick way to be able to use the ubiquitous 60 cell panels in small systems, if the controllers are quality.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;">Any thoughts appreciated.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;">-Nathan<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;"><span style="color:#1F497D">--</span><o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;"><span style="color:#1F497D">Nathan J. 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