<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;">The <i>original post</i> was unsupported.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;"><br></div><div><font face="verdana, geneva" size="2">Yes, as I alluded, the controllers have had some rough periods.</font></div><div><font face="verdana, geneva" size="2">I had one entire batch of MPPT500s that didn't track at all, but he did make things right.</font></div><div><font face="verdana, geneva" size="2">Frank has had some very serious health issues off and on too.</font></div><div><font face="verdana, geneva" size="2">During what time-frame did you use the controllers?</font></div>
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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] BZ Products Charge Controllers<br>
From: Jonathan Hill <<a href="mailto:solarjon@gmail.com">solarjon@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: Thu, April 11, 2013 1:59 pm<br>
To: RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>
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Not at all unsupported. We tried them for about 4 months, about 50% failure rate (sold about 25), Many promises about delivery dates, rarely kept.<div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Jon Hill</div><div><a target="_blank" href="mailto:solarjon@gmail.com">solarjon@gmail.com</a></div><div>530-559-3781</div></div></div></div></div> </div> <br><div><div>On Apr 11, 2013, at 4:11 AM, <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:mark@hurshtown.com">mark@hurshtown.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite" style="border-left: blue 2px solid; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px;"><div><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; "><div>I have used Frank's controllers for many years.  </div><div>There have been a few bad batches, but I would not dismiss them summarily <span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">with a cheap unsupported statement.</span></div><div><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Mark</span></div><div style=""><br style=""></div> <blockquote id="replyBlockquote" webmail="1" style="border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: blue; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px; font-size: 10pt; font-family: verdana; "> <div id="wmQuoteWrapper"> -------- Original Message --------<br> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] BZ Products Charge Controllers<br> From: Jonny Hill <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:solarjon@gmail.com">solarjon@gmail.com</a>><br> Date: Wed, April 10, 2013 9:21 pm<br> To: RE-wrenches <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br> <br> <div>We tried them. Forget it! Too bad but they suck!</div><div><br>Jon Hill<div>Senior solar design engineer</div><div>530-559-3781</div><div><a target="_blank" href="mailto:solarjon@solarelectricsupply.com">solarjon@solarelectricsupply.com</a></div><div><a target="_blank" href="http://solarelectricsupply.com/">http://solarelectricsupply.com</a></div></div><div><br>On Apr 10, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Nathan Stumpff <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:Nathan@arcticsun-llc.com">Nathan@arcticsun-llc.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="border-left: blue 2px solid; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px;"><!--[if !mso]><style>
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</style><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;">Hello wrenches,<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;">Anyone have any experience with BZ Products charge controllers? Kind of thin website (<a target="_blank" href="http://bzproducts.net/">http://bzproducts.net/</a>) but it seems like a pretty slick way to be able to use the ubiquitous 60 cell panels in small systems, if the controllers are quality.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;">Any thoughts appreciated.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;">-Nathan<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;"><span style="color:#1F497D">--</span><o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;"><span style="color:#1F497D">Nathan J. Stumpff<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;"><span style="color:#1F497D">NABCEP Certified PV Installer #091209-175<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;"><span style="color:#1F497D">NABCEP Certified Solar Heating Installer #032412-14<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;"><span style="color:#1F497D">Project Manager | Arctic Sun, LLC<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;"><a target="_blank" href="mailto:nathan@arcticsun-llc.com">nathan@arcticsun-llc.com </a><span style="color:#1F497D"> | (907) 457-1297</span><o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.reina-llc.com/">www.reina-llc.com</a><span style="color:#1F497D"> | </span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.arcticsun-llc.com/"><span style="color:blue">www.arcticsun-llc.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.facebook.com/ArcticSunLLC"><span style="color:blue;text-decoration:none"><image001.png></span></a><o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" style="border-left: blue 2px solid; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px;"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>List sponsored by Home Power magazine</span><br><span></span><br><span>List Address: <a target="_blank" href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Change email address & settings:</span><br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>List-Archive: <a target="_blank" href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>List rules & etiquette:</span><br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Check out participant bios:</span><br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org/">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a></span><br><span></span><br></blockquote><hr>_______________________________________________<br> List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br> <br> List Address: <a target="_blank" href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br> <br> Change email address & settings:<br> <a target="_blank" href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br> <br> List-Archive: <a target="_blank" href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br> <br> List rules & etiquette:<br> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br> <br> Check out participant bios:<br> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org/">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br> <br> </div> </blockquote></span></div> _______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br><br>List Address: <a target="_blank" href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Change email address & settings:<br><a target="_blank" href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive: <a href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