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<div dir="ltr">Actually the operational cost in the UK is higher.
They have had health insurance for some time, the US did not
invent it. Taxes are higher, in fact the US has one of the
lowest tax rates in the OECD.
<div>Once the US moves to 1000V there will be little cost
difference, I am pretty certain of that.<br>
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1000V is definitely coming and we are trying to keep costs as low as
possible.<br>
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And, before this has to go to another group that I can't post to, I
have to<br>
agree with most of what Dan says about operating in the US.<br>
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It is looking like it is only going to get worse to manufacture in
the US. I hope we can<br>
keep the made in the USA label keep coming. A lot of made in USA
equipment is<br>
already only a final assembly and not a significant portion of the
products manufacture.<br>
For example, circuit board assembly in China and then put the rest
together here.<br>
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It's not always "what" the restrictions are, (example: health care,
taxes), but "how"<br>
those are implemented.<br>
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I have heard of American companies moving to the northern UK Ireland
or Scotland)<br>
because it was cheaper for them to operate there but might be
because of some tax loophole ?<br>
I'm sure that hole will be plugged soon.<br>
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We will do our best to keep our products significantly built in the
USA.<br>
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boB<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 11:32 AM,
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<td style="font:inherit" valign="top">Conductors rated
for 1000V and the same power you have in mind<br>
for the 600V conductors (hence lower current) can
indeed use smaller<br>
wire, thus potentially saving on that aspect of the
cost, and possibly<br>
making it lower in cost for a given system than the
lower-voltage higher<br>
current counterpart.<br>
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If the European hardware you bought is fully
certified to the required<br>
UL Standards for use in the USA, then product size
is simply a matter<br>
of design differences. Could also be product volume
since they are<br>
way ahead of us in the 1000V category.<br>
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Issues we as manufacturers in America face when
trying to compete with<br>
firms in other countries are: 1) numerous additional
costs related to things<br>
like Workman's Comp insurance, social security (for
every dollar you have<br>
withheld, the employer matches it), now mandatory
health insurance for<br>
some (depending on company size), and so forth. 2)
Strict environmental<br>
regulations that foreign companies may or may not
have. Even if they DO,<br>
we often find enforcement of those rules to be very
lax, especially in Asia.<br>
3) Cost of living, thus higher wages in the USA.<br>
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.. to name a few. Ends up being higher-cost
products.<br>
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Dan
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--- On <b>Mon, 4/1/13, Chris Mason <i><<a
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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Cable tray<br>
To: "RE-wrenches" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Date: Monday, April 1, 2013, 9:23 AM
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<div dir="ltr">With regards to 600V costs Vs
1000V costs, once 1000V equipment becomes
the norm, it is likely not to cost
appreciably more, and the lower cost of
copper will offset any increase.<br>
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<div>I bought 1000V SolarBos combiners which
are huge, too big to use on my
installation, so I bought the same item
from the UK, which are tiny and easy to
install, and half the cost. Something is
wrong with the US approach to 100V
equipment and switchgear in general. Why
is the european equipment so much smaller
for the same switching current.</div>
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