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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Garrison,<br>
      I don't know why it's not listed as 60A max, but my own internal
      logic would ask why it should be. The only benefit I could see for
      using smaller than a 60A breaker would be to allow use of #8
      conductors (allowed with a 40A or 50A breaker) instead of the #6
      necessary with a 60A breaker. And of course, you could use a 40A
      breaker with #6 conductors, so theoretically it would be fine. I
      just fail to see any benefit to doing so.<br>
      Allan<br>
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        <font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><b>Allan Sindelar</b></font><br>
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      On 2/28/2013 6:27 AM, Garrison Riegel wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks Allen
            for clarifying why a 60A is required.  I was wondering.  The
            spec does list a surge current of 9000W so I thought that
            may be the rationale, but even that would only require a
            50A, and since this surge occurs during ‘stand-alone mode’
            it didn’t seem to apply to the OCPD at the main panel.  Your
            explanation makes more sense, but I wonder why then they
            don’t list the AC input breaker size as 60A <i>max</i>.  If
            you have few backup loads, and are not on the 2011 NEC, a
            40A could theoretically be fine?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks all for
            your thoughts, much appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Garrison<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>Allan Sindelar<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:08 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Conductor Sizing for
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">August,<br>
            The 60A breaker is intended to allow grid power to pass
            through to the loads in excess of the inverter's stand-alone
            output. The point of 705.12 (moved in the 2011 NEC from
            690.64 (B)(2)) is to differentiate between load pass-through
            current and sell current. The amount of current fed into the
            grid is (4500/230 =) 19.56A, while the amount that can be
            taken from the grid and passed through to the load is much
            greater. If you were limited to a 40A breaker in order to
            maintain 120% of a 200A main bus, you'd be prone to nuisance
            trips under large cumulative loads.<br>
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            Allan<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Allan Sindelar</b><br>
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                <b>Positive Energy, Inc.</b><br>
                3209 Richards Lane (note new address)<br>
                Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507<br>
                <b>505 424-1112</b><br>
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