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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/27/2013 1:23 PM, bob ellison
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style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Makes
              me wonder how many dual breakers I have taken the handle
              tie off and used as singles in the past. It has been
              several, and none with no internal connections that I
              could find or notice, with the exception of longer rivets
              holding them together.</span></font></p>
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    <br>
    This is fairly easy to test for.<br>
    <br>
    Remove the pin, reset the breaker handles and then basically apply a
    battery across the breaker<br>
    terminals.  If it is internally connected, both handles will flip
    together even without<br>
    the pins tying them together for switching.<br>
    <br>
    If you are afraid of sparks and arcs, use a 12V battery.<br>
    <br>
    Use real wire. No rat shack clip leads !<br>
    <br>
    boB<br>
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            face="Calibri"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Granted
              it has been a while since I have done that.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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            face="Calibri"><span
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                  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>
                  [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b><span
                      style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>John
                  Berdner<br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                  Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:06 PM<br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                  RE-wrenches<br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                  Re: [RE-wrenches] DC circuit breakers in parallel<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Larry:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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              face="Calibri"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
                Code requires parallel breakers to be designed for this
                application (internally ganged).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Just
                using a handle tie does not allow you to use the poles
                in parallel.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Ryan<br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                    Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:45 AM<br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                    Re: [RE-wrenches] DC circuit breakers in parallel<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                  style="font-size:12.0pt">Larry<br>
                  Our 100 amp din rail is essentially 2 breakers in
                  parallel. So in theory the 2 60 amp breakers "Could"
                  work but. My concern would be that they may not be
                  tripped at the same time where they are not internally
                  ganged. I can't say "Go Ahead" but.<br>
                  <br>
                  Ryan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
            <pre><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">-- <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
            <pre><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Ryan Stankevitz<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
            <pre><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Technical Support Manager<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
            <pre><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">MidNite Solar Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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            <pre><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">360-403-7207 XT 151<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
            <pre><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Skype ID ryan.midnite<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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                  On 2/27/2013 11:21 AM, Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar
                  Power Systems wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">We
                  are installing the system today and I only have 60amp
                  in stock. Customer lives in CA and is leaving today
                  after the installation. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                                Larry Crutcher<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                      style="font-size:12.0pt">On Feb 27, 2013, at 9:17
                      AM, Jonathan Hill wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                        style="font-size:12.0pt">Why not use one of
                        Midnite's new 100 amp din breakers?<br>
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                        Jonathan Hill <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                        On Feb 27, 2013, at 8:06 AM, "Larry Crutcher,
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                            style="font-size:12.0pt">I am installing a
                            Classic 150 controller in an RV with
                            potential 95 amps output at 12 volts. The
                            customer has a Midnite DIN box and wants me
                            to use it for the controller output. I am
                            out of 150VDC breakers but I have two 60 amp
                            breakers. Is it safe and reliable to use the
                            2 breakers in parallel for this purpose? I
                            can pin the two handles together. There will
                            be other circuit protection at the battery.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                                          Larry Crutcher<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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