<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Gary,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>The snow loads that structural engineers design to are a worst-case scenario. It is true that snow tends to slough off of PV arrays quicker than your normal roof. However, if there is a major snow event, especially if it starts at night (this recent blizzard on the East Coast would be a good example), snow will build up on the array the same as it does everywhere else.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new
roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; ">In many cases, a PV array actually makes the engineering assumptions worst. Any snow that lands on the modules transfers down to the attachments, and point-load the structural members. The weight of the snow is less distributed when it sits on a PV array, placing additional stress on individual members. I work in Massachusetts currently, and we often have to perform rafter upgrades to roofs that are fine otherwise for exactly this reason.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new
roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; ">If you have any snow load requirements in your area, I would highly recommend you have a structural engineer review the structure, even if a structural stamp is not required.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; ">Jeffrey Quackenbush</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><br></div>
<div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Bob-O Schultze <bob-o@electronconnection.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:00 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Snow loads<br> </font> </div> <br>
<div id="yiv1875936615"><div>I would certainly agree with Will here. You can't make that argument as stated, it's wrong. Please don't try to make it to your AHJ, you take the chance of f-ing it up for everyone around there. I think the best argument you can try is: aside from the usual 3-4lbs/sq/ft that the array itself ads to the roof load, snow will be very unlikely to build up on the modules to the degree that it builds up anywhere else on the roof. The freezing-rain-before-a-snow phenomena is very real and it WILL happen sooner or later. Not often perhaps and under most conditions the snow will leave the modules before the roof. But...Gotta be real about that.<div>Bob-O Schultze</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:06 AM, Will White wrote:</div><br class="yiv1875936615Apple-interchange-newline"><span class="yiv1875936615Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium; font-family: Helvetica; "><div lang="EN-US"><div class="yiv1875936615WordSection1" style=""><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Most structural engineers I’ve seen take a reduction for slippery surface but I think you’d be stretching things to say adding PV panels reduces the load to zero. I have a 45 degree pitch roof and I get snow build up some times especially if we get freezing rain before the snow. </div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> </div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom:
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223);border-top-width:1pt;padding-top:3pt;padding-right:0in;padding-bottom:0in;padding-left:0in;"><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="yiv1875936615Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline;">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><span class="yiv1875936615Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org]<span class="yiv1875936615Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="yiv1875936615Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Gary
Bassett<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="yiv1875936615Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:48 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="yiv1875936615Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline;">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="yiv1875936615Apple-converted-space"> </span>[RE-wrenches] Snow loads</span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> </div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Has anyone in the snow belt areas have any luck with
convincing their local building inspectors that the snow melts or slides from panels, much like a metal roof only better. Thus your snow load would be reduced to zero where the panels have been installed.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Gary</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in;
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