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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/17/2012 1:20 PM, boB wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/17/2012 12:45 PM, Brian
        Teitelbaum wrote:<br>
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              Solar is working on a unit that they are calling the
              “Translator” that will allow the Classic controllers to
              communicate with other brands of system controllers like
              the MATE or the XW System Control Panel. I don’t know how
              far along in the development process they are, but maybe
              boB can chime in to let us know.</span></p>
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      The general purpose "Interpreter" has been preempted by a couple
      of other communications methodologies that<br>
      should be much quicker to design.  One is for the SMA products
      because we are working with SMA on that one.<br>
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       As far as for OB interoperability, we are trying to see if we can
      use their new AXS interface to talk back and forth.<br>
      That might just work and ~shouldn't~ take too much time to get
      going.<br>
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    Actually now I'm not sure that is going to work because evidently
    the AXS and Mate cannot both be used<br>
    at the same time.  Too bad the Mate 3 doesn't speak modbus.<br>
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    We will see if this is possible to do though.<br>
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    boB<br>
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              I agree with Ray that using a MidNite Classic 200 will
              allow you to use 4 modules in series. The max output amps
              on the 200 at 48VDC is 76A, so that limits you to about
              4kW (76A x 52VDC = 3952A), but that will work fine with 16
              of the 240W modules. You can of course exceed this, but
              you may see some clipping on clear cold days around noon.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              Teitelbaum<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              Solar<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ray Walters<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 17, 2012 12:31 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian design
                  limitation - am I missing something?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">I second WIlliam's sentiment about
              having all equipment communicate together, but Outback
              just ain't there.  I know Midnite's stuff will communicate
              with the universal MODBUS language, and is not that silly
              proprietary stuff that Outback does.  I don't see any
              reason not to use Midnite Classic lites and go to 4 
              modules in series.  The customer will also appreciate the
              computer interface on MyMidnite, much more than suffering
              through the "MATE" screen.  Let the Outbacks sell
              independently, and I think for 2012, that's as good as it
              gets.<br>
              The idea of AC coupling as  others noted is also a decent
              option,  but when I last looked, it is much more
              expensive.<br>
              Charge controllers are much cheaper per watt than
              inverters for a 48 vdc battery.<br>
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              Ray Walters<br>
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              On 12/17/2012 12:15 PM, William Miller wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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              Sure we'd all like to be able to purchase one system that
              does everything:  equipment that communicates between
              chassis and the outside world<br>
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