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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Larry,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We were just called out to an offgrid system that has the Kyocera 120-1’s with the 2001.5 date on them. 10 out of 16 appear to have burned contacts/traces on them. Who is the contact or go to person on this at Kyocera?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'>Sincerely,<br><br>Chris Worcester<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'>Solar Wind Works<br>NABCEP Certified PV Installer<br>Phone: 530-582-4503<br>Fax: 530-582-4603<br><a href="http://www.solarwindworks.com/"><span style='color:blue'>www.solarwindworks.com</span></a><br><a href="mailto:chris@solarwindworks.com"><span style='color:blue'>chris@solarwindworks.com</span></a><br>"Proven Energy Solutions"</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:02 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] bubbling Sanyo modules<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>boB,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If the cells are still "capable" of 80% or more but a defect is in cell interconnection, junction box or whatever is preventing output, then the power warranty does not apply. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Example: The 1999 through 2002 Kyocera KC120-1's have been failing in the thousands. A poorly soldered contact opens and 1/2 the module stops passing power (Voc 10.5 V). To date, Kyocera is still exchanging these with remanufactured units without any legal liability to do so. They even pay us the labor to replace them more than 10 years out of warranty. They have my kudos for the way they are handling this.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>A manufacturer will be on my sh!t list if they don't stand behind an obvious production failure that is occurring in many modules. I hope this is not the case with these Sanyo.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Larry Crutcher<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Starlight Solar Power Systems<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Dec 5, 2012, at 12:03 AM, boB wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 12/4/2012 9:25 PM, benn kilburn wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Doug, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>While the module may be past its workmanship warranty period, if the defect affects the module's power output.... then i would argue that the power output warranty should cover it. That warranty should be good for 25yrs.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Anyone care to comment on that reasoning?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>benn<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>In a way, I don't quite understand the difference.<br><br>If a module plain old stops working because of workmanship or whatever,<br>isn't 0% of original output less than 80% of original output ??<br><br>boB<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>