<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I did notice one thing when I converted my shop to LED. One of my 4' flour fixtures was a plug in type so I used my kill-a-watt and plugged the fixture in, with the ballasts and T8s and recorded a usage of 48W. After removing the ballast and installing the LEDs (21W each) the kill-a-watt read 42W. I tried the same experiment with HO T5 and T12s. The HO T5 read 58W and the T12 read 86. </div><div><br></div><div>I do have LED in my home, bought them at my local ACE hardware. I've had one fail, but it was in an enclosed fixture and LEDs are not well suited for that environment. </div><div><br></div><div>Jesse<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Dec 5, 2012, at 11:25 PM, Ray Walters <<a href="mailto:ray@solarray.com">ray@solarray.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I have several LED lights, mostly AC,
and I'm a big fan.<br>
The light quality approaches that of halogens, and the watts are
noticeably lower than CFLs.<br>
I have spot lights, floods, and rope lights that I forget to turn
off because I can.<br>
LEDs have come along way in the past year.<br>
I have a hand held LED flash light that is as bright as my car
headlights (1100 lumens) and I still haven't charged its Li+
battery in 6 months. LEDs are the future amigos.<br>
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Ray Walters<br>
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On 12/5/2012 8:33 PM, William Dorsett wrote:<br>
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the early days, LED’s were rated by the candela and so
everything was apples and oranges. Long time ago, I used an
LED to allow boats to navigate into a narrow passage by
lining it up with a second one a distance away. You didn’t
have to read a map by it, just see it. As you said Alan,
with Christmas lights and candles you are only looking for a
pretty spot of light without really thinking of lumens. At
least now LED’s are also rated in lumens. And it is still
very worth the trouble checking lumens/watt. I was in Home
Despot not long ago, comparing LED’s with linear
fluorescents and none of the LED’s compared well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Bill
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sunwrights<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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KS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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