<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>We make flexible cable assemblies for a local track rack manufacturer. seems last winter gremlins convinced "us" to muff up a large order (transposed MC4 connectors). We repaired things by pruning off the wrong polarity connectors. so, we now have we have boxes of made up MC4 connectors looking for.. um, re purposing. Will send for S&H. contact me off list. db<br></div><div><br></div><div><br>Dan Brown<br>Foxfire Energy Corp.<br>Renewable Energy Systems<br>(802)-483-2564<br><a href="http://www.Foxfire-Energy.com">www.Foxfire-Energy.com</a><br>NABCEP #092907-44</div><div><br><br></div>
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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Protecting/Cleaning un-connected MC<br>
Connectors<br>
From: "Garrison Riegel" <<a href="mailto:garrison@solarserviceinc.com">garrison@solarserviceinc.com</a>><br>
Date: Mon, November 26, 2012 9:58 am<br>
To: "'RE-wrenches'" <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>
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</style><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Multi-Contact makes MC4 “sealing caps” but I have not been able to find them for sale in the US. Maybe you will have better luck. Plastic and electrical tape has had to suffice for us until a better solution is more available. If you found a good plug I suppose you could also just use spare male and female connectors.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.multi-contact-usa.com/products/parts.php?cat=pv">http://www.multi-contact-usa.com/products/parts.php?cat=pv</a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">A couple years ago I ran your moisture/dust question past MC and they said <u>do not</u> spray anything in the connections. Instead, they recommend making and breaking the connection 5-10 times to clean the surface. Some parts cleaners can cause damage, and may void the module warranty if you have to replace the connector.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Garrison Riegel<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Project Manager </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Solar Service Inc<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">[p] 847-677-0950<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.solarserviceinc.com/" title="blocked::http://www.solarserviceinc.com/"><span style="color:blue">www.solarserviceinc.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">NABCEP Certified Solar PV and Thermal Installer™</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a> [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>benn kilburn<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 23, 2012 11:55 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Protecting/Cleaning un-connected MC Connectors<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Wrenches,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Considering the (sometimes redundant) details that some areas of module and micro-inverter install manuals describe, I have never read mention of paying attention of the condition of the (connector type) regarding moisture or dirt/dust prior to connecting. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Perhaps this just gets thrown into the 'common sense' department, but considering the probability of these connectors being exposed to the elements (morning dew/rain/snow, blowing dirt/dust, bugs…) prior to being connected, and the fact that these connections will most likely be then sealed for years to come, does it not warrant pointing out that one should make efforts to protect the connectors if they are not being connected promptly after removing the modules from their shipping packaging?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">When we have a project and we have installed the (micro-inverters and/or modules) and did not get to making the MC connections that day and have to go back, I always make sure that any un-made connectors are protected. It used to be with whatever plastic parts bags we had on hand and some electrical tape to hold them on, then I started keeping on the truck a small roll of packing shrink wrap which works great. I wonder, am I the only one who does this, or is this a common practice amongst Wrenches?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Why do I bring this up??? <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">I was recently asked to complete an installation where modules had already been mounted to a ground mount rack, and left unconnected. I'm not sure how long they have been sitting on the rack, I didn't ask but would guess a month or three. Upon inspection I noticed that the inside of the module connectors have accumulated a distinct layer of dust and by the amount of snow we have on the ground they have surely been exposed to some level of moisture.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">This leaves me with some hesitations and questions…<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Obviously the layer of dust will inhibit the electrical connection and result in some level of resistance, so what methods are available to thoroughly clean the contact points?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">(think getting inside/around both the "+" and "-" connector pins).<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">I don’t think that compressed air alone would be sufficient, but perhaps compressed air and a pretty small hose brush might work? <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Have any of you used contact cleaner in a situation like this? <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Comments/suggestions….<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">benn<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">DayStar Renewable Energy Inc. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.daystarsolar.ca">www.daystarsolar.ca</a> * Ph: 780-906-7807 <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Construction Electrician Solar Photovoltaic Systems Certified<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Certificate # 0007S<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">HAVE A SUNNY DAY<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><hr>_______________________________________________<br>
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