Benn,<div><br></div><div>Wet location is defined, but there are also specific elaborations throughout the code. As an example, for an enclosure mounted below grade, the interior of the enclosure is also considered to be wet. There is nothing specific in the code that defines the interior of a junction box mounted in a wet location as a wet location also. However, that is up the the interpretation (dare I say whim) of the AHJ. We have been required to use wet location rated splices and connections inside roof mounted junction boxes by some inspectors. Using the same logic, NM cable would not be acceptable.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Nonetheless, I think you are correct and on the right track, and I'm going to give it a whirl.<br><br><div id="WISESTAMP_SIG_8196"><div style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div style="margin:0 0 8px 0"><p style="margin:0"><span style="color:#808080"><strong>Jason Szumlanski</strong><em> </em></span></p><p style="margin:0"><span style="color:#808080"><em>Fafco Solar</em></span><br></p></div>
</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:02 PM, benn kilburn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:benn@daystarsolar.ca" target="_blank">benn@daystarsolar.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,255);font-size:14px;font-family:Capitals,sans-serif"><div><div><div>Glenn/Jason,</div><div>So you wouldn't use romex to feed an exterior outlet on an outside wall, or to any outside lights???</div>
<div><br></div><div>Canadian Electrical Code's (CE Code) definitions…</div><div><u>wet location</u> -a location in which liquids may drip, splash, or flow on or against electrical equipment.</div><div><u>Damp location</u> –an exterior or interior location that is normally or periodically subject to condensation of moisture in, on, or, adjacent to electrical equipment an includes partially protected locations under canopies, parquees, roofed open porches, and similar locations.</div>
<div><u>Dry location </u>–a location not normally subject to dampness, but that may include a location subject to temporary dampness as in the case of a building under construction, provided that ventilation is adequate to prevent an accumulation of moisture. </div>
<div><br></div><div>If inside your attic is considered a "wet location", then you have other issues. Are you sure the NEC's definition of 'wet location' is relating to the location of the romex?</div>
<div>I just spoke to one of my inspectors and he sees no issue with entering the bottom of a soladeck with romex. </div><div><br></div><div>On the grounding/bonding, I have been using the bare wire in the romex for the enphase system ground (within the enphase cable) and running a #6 from the mod frames and rails into the soladeck and along side the romex back to the panelboard.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I need to get myself a copy of your NEC so I can be on the same page as you guys. I hear it is written in a way that is much easier to interpret than the CE Code, which is written in a very legal jargon.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>benn</div><div><div><div>DayStar Renewable Energy Inc. </div><div><a href="http://www.daystarsolar.ca" target="_blank">www.daystarsolar.ca</a> * Ph: <a href="tel:780-906-7807" value="+17809067807" target="_blank">780-906-7807</a> </div>
<div>Construction Electrician Solar Photovoltaic Systems Certified</div><div>Certificate # 0007S</div><div>HAVE A SUNNY DAY</div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><span><div><div class="h5"><div><div>On 25/10/12 9:37 AM, "Glenn Burt" <<a href="mailto:glenn.burt@glbcc.com" target="_blank">glenn.burt@glbcc.com</a>> wrote:</div>
</div><div><br></div><div><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Soladeck on the rooftop places it in an environment that is considered ‘wet’.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I don’t think Romex is listed for use in a wet environment.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">This would force you to use the proposed jbox in the attic for the transition location.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I also understood that you could combine the EGC and GEC into a single conductor as long as it is continuous or irreversibly spliced, as part of the ’08 code.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">-Glenn Burt<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a> [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jason Szumlanski<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 25, 2012 9:13 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Enphase and Romex<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I'm sure this has been covered, but I could not find it in the archives.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">We are considering using Romex in the attic for the first time. My plan was to use the new Enphase coupler to connect the trunk cable to Type TC-ER, enter a Soladeck passthrough box on the roof into a junction box in the attic where I would make the transition to 10/3 Romex. I'm hung up on the GEC going back to the service panel. Any suggestions?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">By the way, we are on NEC 2008, and in most cases there is also a requirement for an additional grounding electrode per NEC 690.47(D) (that shouldn't really relate to my issue).<u></u><u></u></p>
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