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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Per the SI install manual: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:SMAFuturaGlobal-Regular;color:windowtext'>Risk of death from back‑feed into the power distribution grid in the event of grid failure.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:SMAFuturaGlobal-Regular;color:windowtext'>Once you set the Sunny Boy to stand‑alone grid parameters, the device no longer complies<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:SMAFuturaGlobal-Regular;color:windowtext'>with IEEE 929 and the IEEE 1547.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-right:722.25pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>The out-of-the-box default for the SI is set to not backfeed if the grid goes away. The backup function causes the SI to fool the GT inverters into thinking the grid’s still around so they keep charging the battery bank even when it’s not. And the SI cannot backfeed normally.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-right:722.25pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>If this legal SMA workaround allows backfeeding during blackouts, a function that violates UL1741 for you or me to perform, the sentence at the top applies. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-right:722.25pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>My guess is that the patch allows the SI to run during a blackout and since the SI is not designed to be 1709 compliant allowing it to operate with no grid signal may pose a threat to the utility. At least that’s what I’m reading. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>Jim Duncan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>North Texas Renewable Energy Inc<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.ntrei.com/">www.ntrei.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>NABCEP PV 031310-57<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>TECL-27398<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:ntrei@1scom.net">ntrei@1scom.net</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>817.917.0527<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-right:722.25pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On 10/18/2012 11:14 AM, Jay Peltz wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Allan<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I guess I don't understand the utility concern?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Are concerned for their transformers, or<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>does it have to do with rebates?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thx<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jay<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Peltz power<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Oct 18, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Allan Sindelar <<a href="mailto:allan@positiveenergysolar.com">allan@positiveenergysolar.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Erika,<br>This just came up for us recently. I learned this, surprisingly, from a Customer Generation tech at our local utility. We are installing a GTWB system with two SI5048s and two SB5000s. The CG tech spoke with SMA tech support about the possibility of the SIs selling back to the utility as well as the SBs. He learned that there is a software patch that can be installed in the SIs that will allow them to do this, but that SMA will only allow the patch to be installed upon receiving written permission from the utility. This was sufficient for our utility to consider our system to be a 10kW interconnected system.<br><br>This is all I know that may help you; I heard nothing about "3 seconds". You might want to explore this further with SMA tech support.<br>Allan<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Allan Sindelar</b><br><a href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com"><span style='color:#000099'>Allan@positiveenergysolar.com</span></a><br>NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer<br>NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional<br>New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br>Founder and Chief Technology Officer<br><b>Positive Energy, Inc.</b><br>3209 Richards Lane (note new address)<br>Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507<br><b>505 424-1112</b><br><a href="http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/" target="_blank">www.positiveenergysolar.com</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-right:722.25pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></blockquote></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>