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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have had inverters ruined by drywall dust, it literally filled them within a couple years as the owner worked on his house. Next thing I am getting a call that it would not work….<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I doubt that sawdust would be any different.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Later,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bob Ellison<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>jay peltz<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, October 13, 2012 5:28 PM<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> RE-wrenches<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid 1nverter replacement for 3 HP<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>HI Hilton,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Before you go anywhere you need to know what the draw on this motor is.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I've seen 3 hp motors not be able to start on a 15kw genny.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Why? Just horrible motors thats all.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>jay<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>peltz power<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Oct 13, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Hilton Dier III wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I have an off-grid client who is having trouble with his aging Xantrex SW4024 inverter and is considering an upgrade. I need some advice.<br><br>One of his problems with his present system is that he can't run his 3 HP 240VAC table saw on the 4024. He'd be content to run his generator for any long sessions of sawing, but he'd like the capability to do a cut or two without firing it up.<br><br>I was thinking about stacking a couple of Outbacks. I'd like to know people's real-world experiences with the relationship between motor HP, rated inverter watts, and surge watts. How much wattage does he need to actually do the job? That is, without flailing the inverter(s) into a shortened life span.<br><br>Also, how do Outbacks compare with Magnums or whatever? I have been using Outbacks for a while with good results, but I have been hearing murmurs and grumbling since they were bought out. I haven't used Xantrex/Schneider for a while and I have no experience with Magnums. I notice that the Magnums offer split phase 240. <br><br>I should note that he has his inverter setup in his wood shop. I am theorizing that some of his inverter trouble could be from a tree's worth of sawdust in the case. He presently has a 24V system, but he is considering a battery replacement, which would be an opportunity to switch to 48V if necessary. The sawdust issue makes me lean towards the sealed Outbacks, but he does have a partially finished box for the inverter with filters and a fan.<br><br>Opinions?<br><br>Many thanks.<br><br>Hilton<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hilton Dier III<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Renewable Energy Design<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Partner, Solar Gain LLC<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>453 East Hill Rd.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Middlesex, VT 05602<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Tel: 802-223-6652<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Options & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div></div></body></html>