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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Jeff,<br>
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      The TWACs signal is a nasty beast. It is low frequency and thus
      very hard to filter. It seems to cause problems with a large
      variety of devices. <br>
      <br>
      Unless someone has taken the time to check, how do they know if
      the other inverters aren't offline for 5 of every 15 minutes?<br>
      <br>
      I think the time sync signal may be broadcast from the substation
      only with no reply from the individual meters. The problems I've
      seen have always been when the local meter is sending data; that
      only takes a few seconds but it takes the inverter offline for
      five minutes. So if you are seeing problems with the time sync
      signal, I'd guess that the installation must be close to the
      substation where the signal originates.<br>
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      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Kent Osterberg
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      On 10/9/2012 9:20 AM, Jeff Wongstrom wrote:<br>
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      <div>I just talked with Mike in the meter department.  The utility
        does indeed use Aclara TWACs AMR.  The meter reading signal can
        vary but is usually done at midnight or it could be set to every
        8 hours, 1 hour, etc.  However, a time sync signal is sent every
        15 minutes.  This correlates with the problem inverter going
        into state 104's at various times after connecting to the grid
        observed from 1-11 minutes.  Unfortunately I was informed that
        the time sync signal can not be changed.</div>
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      <div>Mike told me that there are two or three other Fronius
        inverters on their system without problems, he did not know if
        they are IG or IG+.</div>
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                Is there any chance the utility has recently implemented
                a remote meter reading system? The <a
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                  TWACs</a> remote meter reading system communicates by
                putting a pulse on the line that is very near the zero
                crossing of the voltage waveform. Unfortunately the zero
                crossing is easily and often used as a reference point
                for frequency measurements. Devices that watch the zero
                crossings are often confused by the TWACS signal. The
                signal isn't there constantly -- only when the local kWr
                meter has been asked to send data.<br>
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                On 10/8/2012 9:34 AM, Jeff Wongstrom wrote:<br>
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                type="cite">Hello wrenches,
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                <div>We have a Fronius IG3000 that chronically and
                  frequently cycles into and out of a state 104(grid
                  frequency not within admissible range).   The utility
                  has monitored the supply and claims to have found no
                  frequency or supply issues.   Fronius sent a
                  replacement inverter but the error persists. The tie
                  in point was moved from the critical loads sub panel
                  to the main distribution panel.  The state 104
                  persists with ALL other breakers open.  A Fluke DMM
                  min/max function captures no frequency readings
                  outside of the inverter frequency window-same with
                  voltage readings.   </div>
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                <div>Any suggestions or recommendations?</div>
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                <div>Thanks,</div>
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