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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Are you correcting for the changes in SG with the temperature increase?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I used to be able to get hydrometers with a built in thermometer and chart but no longer have one. It died as most do, with a crash and shattering sound.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Bob Ellison<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Sequoya Cross<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 04, 2012 3:23 PM<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'RE-wrenches'<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16 SG Readings- Did Something Change?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Thank you John. Is anyone else out there seeing specific gravity measurements outside of what Trojan is stating on the spec sheets? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>John, we are not seeing these SG readings, no matter how much we equalize, we are still seeing readings that are about .015+/- low after several equalizations. This is on newer batteries, and within the plate forming period. Do you have a SG reading that we should be looking for during the first 18 months (or XX amount of cycles until the plates are properly formed)?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Thanks-<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Sequoya Cross<br>1589 Rapid Lightning Creek Rd<br>Sandpoint, Idaho 83864<br><a href="http://www.backwoodssolar.com/"><font color=black><span style='color:black'>www.backwoodssolar.com</span></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Phone(208)263-4290 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Fax </span></font><font size=1 color="#404040" face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#404040'>(888) 273-8279</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><br>We are an online and catalog business that caters to off-grid and grid-tie customers, with technicians that own and operate a variety of renewable energy systems using the products that we sell. We take great pride in getting to know our products so that we can recommend the best for our customers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a> [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>John DeBoever<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 31, 2012 1:05 PM<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> RE-wrenches<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16 SG Readings- Did Something Change?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Sequoya, Wrenches,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Thank you for your patience on this, as I had no easy Internet connection. Below are the clarifications requested. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>ü<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font color="#1f497d"><span style='color:#1F497D'>Trojan Premium L16RE-B datasheet can be found here: <a href="http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/L16REB_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf">http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/L16REB_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>ü<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font color="#1f497d"><span style='color:#1F497D'>Trojan Premium line ( <a href="http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/Premium_Trojan_ProductLineSheet.pdf">http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/Premium_Trojan_ProductLineSheet.pdf</a> ) has indeed changed its specific gravity from nominal 1.260+-0.007 to nominal 1,280+-0.007 since March 2012 production. This change was motivated to reduce the confusion in the field between Trojan Premium line S.G. values and Trojan Signature line S.G. values. They are now identical. Only Trojan IND line S.G. remain at 1.260 .<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>ü<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font color="#1f497d"><span style='color:#1F497D'>During the beginning of the life of the battery, an optimized development process of the plates porosity will take place to maximize the surface access contact between the electrolyte and the lead sulfate crystal within Trojan proprietary exclusive paste formulation. This optimum moisture of the active material at the beginning of the battery life is the continuation of an advanced factory-controlled 72-hour curing process and increase the electrical conductivity and improved discharge performance of the active material paste, resulting in Trojan’s proven both sustained capacity and total overall ampere-hours, resulting in more operating power. The variation can reflect approximately 7 points in the S.G. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>ü<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font color="#1f497d"><span style='color:#1F497D'>The date code can be found on the negative terminal and consist of one letter and one figure. The figure for 2012 is “2”. Any date code from and after “E2” (i.e. Code date with letter E2, F2, G2,…)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>will have a nominal S.G. of 1.280 . Prior that, the nominal S.G. was 1,260.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I hope that helps,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>John <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'>John F. DeBoever<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Global Technical & Projects Director – Renewable Energy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D;font-weight:bold'>Trojan Battery Company<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D'>12380 Clark Street <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Santa Fe Springs, CA 90670<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Tel: +1-562-236-3000 Ext. 3139<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color="#943634" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#943634;font-weight:bold'>Cell: +1-845-514-7600 – NY office time zone: USA EST (GMT-5)<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Skype: john.f.deboever<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Fax: +1-562-236-3239<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:jdeboever@trojanbattery.com"><font size=1><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt'>jdeboever@trojanbattery.com</span></font></a></span></font><font size=1 color="#1f497d"><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.trojanbattery.com/"><font size=1><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt'>www.trojanbattery.com</span></font></a></span></font><font size=1 color="#1f497d"><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org]">[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org]</a> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Sequoya Cross<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:08 PM<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16 SG Readings- Did Something Change?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>We are wondering if anybody knows when the Trojan L-16RE-B batteries went from full SG readings of 1.265 (after an 18 month "plate forming" period) to 1.280 that they now state on the data sheet. We have been having customers use 1.250 as a full reading which would gradually increase over time to 1.265 and that might take/might not be seen for 18 months. Now we see that a "full reading" should be 1.280 and maybe still a "plate forming" period or maybe not? Does anyone know the date code that we can use with customers to see what they should be looking for (should have been somewhere between 2010 and 2012)? I have this question out to Trojan as well, but haven’t received confirmation and wanted to know what data you all were seeing as well.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Thanks-<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Sequoya Cross<br>1589 Rapid Lightning Creek Rd<br>Sandpoint, Idaho 83864<br><a href="http://www.backwoodssolar.com/"><font color=black><span style='color:black'>www.backwoodssolar.com</span></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Phone(208)263-4290 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Fax </span></font><font size=1 color="#404040" face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#404040'>(888) 273-8279</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><br>We are an online and catalog business that caters to off-grid and grid-tie customers, with technicians that own and operate a variety of renewable energy systems using the products that we sell. 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