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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Jeff,<br>
I got certified in the first round in 2003, so my recert is due
this year and I'm facing this added requirement for the first time
just like you. While it's definitely an added hassle, and I would
have preferred an earlier and louder heads-up announcement about
the new requirements, I think it's a good thing. <br>
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Here's my take on it - when NABCEP started nobody knew what it was
and Certification didn't mean much. Now it's a big deal, more in
some areas than others. Now I regularly come across companies
claiming some sort of NABCEP certification or approval that's not
legitimate, and I periodically send web page links or quoted
excerpts from their websites or newspaper ads to NABCEP, who sends
them some sort of "cease and desist" warning. It's all about
protecting the legitimacy of certification, resisting the call to
make it easier to get and to keep. Once it's weakened it's hard to
regain a solid reputation for it. <br>
<br>
Most of us know of installers who are good at taking tests, and of
someone who is certified but who probably shouldn't be, right? The
need to submit actual customer feedback adds one more level of
legitimacy, one more step to make it harder for that marginal
installer to stay certified. So when I look at the bigger picture
I have to be in favor of this added requirement. And I'll add that
I would have a hard time wording three questions to better get the
results that would address quality of installation issues than the
ones used.<br>
Just my $.02...<br>
Allan<br>
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On 7/15/2012 7:49 AM, Jeff Wongstrom wrote:<br>
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<div>I have recently learned that as part of the NABCEP
recertification process a Quality Assessment Survey must be
presented to three System Owners during the recertification
period. The questions in the survey are:</div>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px; margin-left: 36px; font: normal normal normal
11.5px/normal 'Times New Roman'; "><b>TO BE COMPLETED BY
SYSTEM OWNER: </b></div>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px; margin-left: 36px; font: normal normal normal
11.5px/normal 'Times New Roman'; ">1. Upon completion of the
System installation, did the System work as expected? </div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px; margin-left: 36px; font: normal normal normal
11.5px/normal 'Times New Roman'; ">Yes <span style="font:
normal normal normal 11.5px/normal Wingdings; "> </span>No <span
style="font: normal normal normal 11.5px/normal Wingdings; "> </span></div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px; margin-left: 36px; font: normal normal normal
11.5px/normal 'Times New Roman'; ">If no, please identify and
explain all deficiencies or problems that you experienced. </div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px; margin-left: 36px; font: normal normal normal
11.5px/normal 'Times New Roman'; "><br>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px; margin-left: 36px; font: normal normal normal
11.5px/normal 'Times New Roman'; ">2. Did the System
installation cause any leaks or property damage? </div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px; margin-left: 36px; font: normal normal normal
11.5px/normal 'Times New Roman'; ">Yes <span style="font:
normal normal normal 11.5px/normal Wingdings; "> </span>No <span
style="font: normal normal normal 11.5px/normal Wingdings; "> </span></div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px; margin-left: 36px; font: normal normal normal
11.5px/normal 'Times New Roman'; ">If yes, please identify and
explain the nature of such leaks and/or damage. </div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px; margin-left: 36px; font: normal normal normal
11.5px/normal 'Times New Roman'; "><br>
</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px; margin-left: 36px; font: normal normal normal
11.5px/normal 'Times New Roman'; ">3. Did the System
installation cause any other problems or deficiencies that
needed resolution during or after the installation of the
System? </div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px; margin-left: 36px; font: normal normal normal
11.5px/normal 'Times New Roman'; ">Yes <span style="font:
normal normal normal 11.5px/normal Wingdings; "> </span>No <span
style="font: normal normal normal 11.5px/normal Wingdings; "> </span></div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px; margin-left: 36px; font: normal normal normal
11.5px/normal 'Times New Roman'; ">If yes, please identify and
explain such problems or deficiencies, and whether they were
satisfactorily resolved in a timely, professional manner by
the Installer? </div>
</div>
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0px; margin-left: 36px; font: normal normal normal 11.5px/normal
'Times New Roman'; "><br>
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<div>Specifically asking about 'leaks and property damage' seems
to me as unnecessary and in bad form as does the survey in
general. </div>
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<div>Are wrenches complying with the survey requirement and do you
find the survey appropriate both in content and as a requirement
to recertification? </div>
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