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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Todd,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">They both belong to the same Premium  battery category.  They differentiate by Ah size, although very close to each other:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">ü<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> 
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">L16RE-A is 323 Ah @ C<sub>20</sub> @ 1.75VPC @ 80<sup>o</sup>F;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">L16RE-B is 370 Ah @ C<sub>20</sub> @ 1.75VPC @ 80<sup>o</sup>F;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">See more info on the datasheet, here:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/L16REA_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf"><span style="color:windowtext">http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/L16REA_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/L16REB_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf"><span style="color:windowtext">http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/L16REB_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sunniest regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">John F. DeBoever</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Global Technical & Projects Director – Renewable Energy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Trojan Battery Company</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">12380 Clark Street </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Santa Fe Springs, CA 90670</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Tel: +1-562-236-3000 Ext. 3139</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#953735">Cell: +1-845-514-7600 – NY office time zone: USA EST (GMT-5)</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Skype: john.f.deboever</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.0pt">Fax: +1-562-236-3239</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:jdeboever@trojanbattery.com"><u><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.0pt;color:blue">jdeboever@trojanbattery.com</span></u></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.trojanbattery.com/"><u><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.0pt;color:blue">www.trojanbattery.com</span></u></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>toddcory@finestplanet.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 09, 2012 7:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Experience<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">and the difference betaeen the L16RE-A & L16RE-B is?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">todd<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On Monday, July 9, 2012 12:53pm, "John DeBoever" <<a href="mailto:jdeboever@trojanbattery.com">jdeboever@trojanbattery.com</a>> said:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jason, Wrenches,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank you for your patience and positive statements on Trojan Battery Company. Last week was a busy and I was away from my desk most of the time with limited
 access to Internet.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Both the Premium ”RE” versions L16RE-A and L16RE-B, and, the Signature  L16P & L16H are great deep-cycles lead acid batteries for solar applications. The key
 differences between them are:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The grid is thicker for the Premium “RE” L16RE-A and L16RE-B, which effectively reinforces further the frame strength which results into a greater
 corrosion resistance; </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There is relatively more electrolyte in contact with the plates in the Premium “RE” L16RE-A and L16REB, which enhances the electrochemical reaction,
 particularly during PSOC; </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The rubber-based multi-rib geometry separator is approx. 30% thicker for the Premium “RE” L16RE-A and L16RE-B, which translates into a longer life
 of the separator. The thicker multi-ribs geometry keeps over time the acid channels open longer, promoting the flow of the electrolyte . As a result, the thicker separator is reducing the risk of stratification and enhancing electrochemical processing throughout
 the plates, resulting into longer continuous performance of the battery. </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I hope this helps. Let me know if I can shed further light on other attributes of lead acid batteries.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">On Behalf Of </span></strong>Jason Lerner<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Sent:</span></strong> Sunday, July 01, 2012 11:26 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am back to using Trojan's after 12 years of trying others,  none seem to last as long for the L16's.  Could anybody explain the technical differences between the Trojan L16 and the L16RE-B's.  I have read all the brochures but would like
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">On Behalf Of </span></strong>SunHarvest<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Sent:</span></strong> Friday, June 29, 2012 11:56 AM<br>
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