<html><head><base href="x-msg://543/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Jun 28, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Marv Dargatz wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div><div><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">What is “peak volts” and “peak amps”?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">The only ratings that should apply here are Vmp and Imp. Plus, of course, deratings for temperature and correction for irradiance and angle of incidence.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">See ya!</span></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Marv</span> </div></div><div></div></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div><div><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I multiplied the labeled peak volts x the peak amps at STC. That is, using the stated data from label on back of module.</div></div></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div>Uh yeah, up here in Northern California, or at least the small padded room I'm in, peak volts and peak amps are the same as Vmp and Imp. I just got sloppy being way tired when I posted that.</div><div><br></div><div>Even with that fuzzyness explained, the KC120-1R modules being sent as replacements are actually LABELED on back as putting out 102 watts at STC if you multiply the.... stated on the label.</div><div>Yet it is called KC120-1R That is shocking and represents deliberate deception in my opinion. <br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div><div><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div></span></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>If any of you have replaced these faulty KC120s with KC120-1R then I encourage you to find out what the labeled Vmp x Imp is.</div><div><br></div><div>If you want to open a can of worms that is.</div><div><br></div><div>It may be these two are an anomaly. I am having the recipient of the batch in question confirm on those he has.</div><div><br></div><div>Happy trails,</div><div><br></div><div><div>Wallace Stahle</div><div>Future Electric Energy Co</div><div>P O Box 236</div><div>Willits, CA 95490</div><div><a href="mailto:future@pacific.net">future@pacific.net</a></div><div>CA Lic.# C10-762093</div><div>707-459-0474</div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br></body></html>